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Unless used relatively, the concept of nothing is impossible.

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Megamatrixdude is not online. Megamatrixdude
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23 Aug 2011 09:28 AM
The concept of nothing only works if used relatively, for instance:

There is nothing inside Lighting. (Or in a real life situation, maybe, a vacuum) The reason is, if you mean, there is nothing at ALL, then that is impossible, because there must be something to be able to define nothing.


Basically, if there truly was nothing, how can we define that nothingness before the b1g b4ng (In case of filter. e.e)? It is impossible, because even if it was just the vacuum of space, then there would still be what we consider to be something.

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23 Aug 2011 09:28 AM
I see you're unbanned

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Megamatrixdude is not online. Megamatrixdude
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23 Aug 2011 09:29 AM
Yes, thanks for caring enough to take note. :O

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23 Aug 2011 09:30 AM
If you are talking in programming, then you are right. That is why they created a unique value, "nil" or "null", to represent "nothing".
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Real life:

Now we cannot actually create "nothing", since we do not know what "nothing" is - mostly is where can we find this "nothing"?

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23 Aug 2011 09:32 AM
Nothing is impossible, because there has to be some kind of... "Base existence" to support nothing.

Yes, the programming side of it is true also. Data cannot be stored as nothing, because you couldn't assign a value to true nothingness.

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23 Aug 2011 09:35 AM
@Mega

Nothing isn't impossible - maybe impossible to comprehend - but not impossible. For an example, matter is "something" and anti-matter is considered "negative something".

When these two elements meet, they can possibly annihilate each other out - and the result is considered "nothing".

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Megamatrixdude is not online. Megamatrixdude
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23 Aug 2011 09:36 AM
But if the human mind can't comprehend something, don't we usually label it as impossible?

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23 Aug 2011 09:41 AM
@Megamatrix

If we actually did that - we would never advance in life. For an example, infinity is also considered impossible, but we still use it in calculations.

When trying to work out how much energy an object with mass needs to reach light speed and above. You draw a sloped graph.

When the object reaches 99.9% light speed - it would need so much energy to transition to lightspeed that the amount of energy is infinite or at least considered infinite. And even more impossibally - the graph shows you the amount of energy it takes for the object to surpass light speed (negative energy).

All which is impossible - but we still calculate it.
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23 Aug 2011 09:48 AM
To be honest, I think most of our advancing in life is over until next time.

If I go to the centre of my city, the intelligence lacks. I see no adverts for jobs in advanced computer programming except on the odd occasion.

IT teachers know less than kids/teens/just turned adults like us. People have to be sent back to school by their employers because they can't do numbers or write, or even understand medium-level English.

Nobody can fix my failed internet problems. They leave the job to somebody else, who does the same thing. It's a loop.

The same works for the economy. There is no real money. It all works on the principle that somebody owes you something. They borrow to pay you back, and on it goes.



So basically, I doubt we will do much advancing after this adult generation dies and leaves no "apprentices".

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23 Aug 2011 09:51 AM
Megamatrix, why are you pessimistic?

"If I go to the centre of my city, the intelligence lacks. I see no adverts for jobs in advanced computer programming except on the odd occasion."

Uhh... Nice city? I live in London, and while we have a part full of drunks. The city is amazing, full of rich bankers and such.

"Nobody can fix my failed internet problems. They leave the job to somebody else, who does the same thing. It's a loop."

America is large - thus it is hard to find competent people.

"The same works for the economy. There is no real money. It all works on the principle that somebody owes you something. They borrow to pay you back, and on it goes."

Borrowing works - and it works quite well. It is currently the best method, it is what made America what it is today (the good parts).
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Megamatrixdude is not online. Megamatrixdude
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23 Aug 2011 09:53 AM
You'll see in 200 years.

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nightname is not online. nightname
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23 Aug 2011 09:55 AM
"You'll see in 200 years."

Are you being optimistic? o_O
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Megamatrixdude is not online. Megamatrixdude
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23 Aug 2011 10:22 AM
Yes, actually. xD

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23 Aug 2011 11:00 AM
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nightname is not online. nightname
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23 Aug 2011 11:11 AM
Oysi, not saying I agree with the Big Bang.

The big bang was "something" - it was a singularity. All the universe that we know today has been squashed to a point so tiny to the volume of 0.

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