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Re: Group Logs - The Simple Solution to All Abuse of Power

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ColourTheory is not online. ColourTheory
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08 Jun 2011 10:14 PM
(This is a repost since my old post is messed up due to my old forum account being glitched because of a name change)

I had this idea a while back, and recently Infinitive reminded me of this idea. I say we need to press harder about it.

In the group world, things are abused. People randomly mess up ranks, make advertising shouts without permission, exile users without permission and the like.

Thing is, when this happens, we have no easy way to fix this or find out who is doing it. This can be completely solved with one thing: logging ALL actions for the leader to see.

The group log will be within the admin section of the group. It can be selected for certain people to view.

They would look like this:

[1:30:54] RandomNoob328 promoted Lolhaxxorsleet to rank "General". [UNDO]
[1:29:40] bob48298 shouted: "omg go here guis srsllyyy".
[1:23:55] superawsome123 exiled user "lolspamalt123".


What is that [UNDO] thing? Well, basically, it would undo that action. Only the OWNER can do this, and maybe if it logged undoings as well, and let you undo undos.. (yes, paradox), then perhaps it could be an option as well.

In addition, it would have an "UNDO ALL RECENT ACTIONS" button for a user. Basically, any promotions they gave for the day would be reversed, or demotions. This is to easily fix an admin attack in ONE button. (Admin Attack is slang for messing up the ranks of a group with the intention of causing trouble)

This solution is used in MANY popular games, and it's time for Roblox to buff up the group feature. It's sad that this must be done, but the group feature is way too insecure at the moment, and way too much abuse is taking place every day.

Like this feature? Join this group today!

http://www.roblox.com/My/Groups.aspx?gid=233249

[Credits]:
Other games for the initial idea
Infinitive for reminding me
Supports, for all your support!

(And if undo is too hard, just the logs themselves will do fine.)
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bereza12 is not online. bereza12
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08 Jun 2011 10:16 PM
I'm doing this for the IDEA only, Bump(Support)
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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08 Jun 2011 10:21 PM
Agreed.
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bereza12 is not online. bereza12
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08 Jun 2011 10:23 PM
There is a GIANT issue with this idea, that I am going to fix right now.

I'm sure you, ColourTheory would LOVE to read five thousand logs a day. What should be done instead(for all those large clans) is a log system counting the actions of the high ranks, like:

RandomNoob[Rank:100]Edits made today: 999999
ULikeThisGuy[Rank:249]Edits made today: 5
EpicProLolCool[Rank:100]Edits made today: 9

I wonder, what is randomnoob doing? Pressing on his name would bring up the list of HIS actions. As well as the undo.
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bereza12 is not online. bereza12
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08 Jun 2011 10:25 PM
Or is RandomNoob a she? >.<
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solder77 is not online. solder77
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08 Jun 2011 10:26 PM
TD ; RL plese?

I cant read everything and waste time.Make a TD ; RL next time okay?

~/.S&I.\~
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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08 Jun 2011 10:28 PM
No. The ammount of actions is worthless.

We need to have filters (to filter the different types of actions), search and maybe other features to sort them easily. Anyway, if someone is admin attacking, it should be easy to see who it is. And you could monitor what the leaders do by looking at the group logs.
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solder77 is not online. solder77
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08 Jun 2011 10:28 PM
Typo *Please*
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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08 Jun 2011 10:30 PM
Add-on to the suggestion:
Group owners should be able to set permissions to specify which ranks are allowed to view the group logs.
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bereza12 is not online. bereza12
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08 Jun 2011 10:32 PM
Agreed
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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08 Jun 2011 10:35 PM
With the increasing ammount of admin attacks that happened recently, this feature became more needed than before, and it would be really useful to avoid future things to happen again, while also making leaders able to monitor their leaders's actions.
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ggfunny1234 is not online. ggfunny1234
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08 Jun 2011 10:35 PM
Support bawmp.

Sending this forum to everyone I know. KEEP IT BUMPED!
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fabiao14 is not online. fabiao14
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08 Jun 2011 10:37 PM
Agreed.
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cyrus1222 is not online. cyrus1222
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08 Jun 2011 10:37 PM
Support
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Aceslayer is not online. Aceslayer
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08 Jun 2011 10:37 PM
Support.
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kjr51 is not online. kjr51
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08 Jun 2011 10:37 PM
I support :P Bump
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thecaptain97 is not online. thecaptain97
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08 Jun 2011 10:41 PM
ROBLOX Admins should DEFINATLY use This.
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kendall5279 is not online. kendall5279
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08 Jun 2011 10:41 PM
Supported and Agreed
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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08 Jun 2011 10:41 PM
I redirected my thread to this one.
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LordEpicDawn is not online. LordEpicDawn
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08 Jun 2011 10:41 PM
Great idea, Supported.
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gking19 is not online. gking19
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08 Jun 2011 10:43 PM
Julien, I did the same thing.

Supported, and wanted by many.
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LordBlackwingDragon is not online. LordBlackwingDragon
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08 Jun 2011 10:44 PM
I have suggested the same thing. But support anyway.
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Dylan2225 is not online. Dylan2225
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08 Jun 2011 10:46 PM
Support. Bump.
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gking19 is not online. gking19
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08 Jun 2011 10:46 PM
Bump. *F5 spams* KEEP THIS THREAD ALIVE!!!
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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08 Jun 2011 10:47 PM
Don't F5 too much. It might get deleted.
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