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Re: How VAK's SMO and RAT's Celeste Improve

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LordOptimism is not online. LordOptimism
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01 Aug 2011 08:59 AM
Well, since I'm tired of so munch flaming thread about how RAT in un-fair, and VAK is un-fair. Well, I want this to be over with and make everyone grow up. I can't, so I'm making this so your can argue on here. I know CT wont change Celeste until SMO is fair, but Vaktus is suborn to admit it is quite un-fair, I will admit I would be too if my base was un-fair and I knew it. I just getting that out of the way, so anyone in VAK reading this, you could consider it with Vaktus, that'd be nice. Also, I am not complaining, this is all constructive criticism, I am not going to view this with my RAT point of view, RAT has flaws also.

How SMO Can Approve
- Remove some details, make it less laggy.
- Make the way in somewhat easier, make it less jumps?
- Add cooldown time on the guns.
- Make the top of the tower not be able to go through the red thing, make it solid, to prevent major sniping.
- Make the reload speed a little faster.
- Make players start with grenades.
- Remove VAK only door, make it a VIP door, a sell about your kind of price.
- Make it 20 minutes to win a raid, I'm not going to wait 30 whole minutes to win a raid.
- Spawn protection.
- Less ammo for guns.

How Celeste Can Approve
- Put turrets on the side of the fort.
- Make the wall smaller, make it so you can have three people to stack to jump.
- Make D4's office not lockable.
- Make VIP not teleport into the base, I rather just give them guns automatically when they spawn. This does not include the jet pack, it would stay in the armory, still as VIP only.
- You can't walk and shoot at the same time with the armory guns. With the regular spawn with rifle you can walk and shoot.
- Make the sniper 3 shot kill.
- Make if you are RAT, you automatically on the RAT team, and you can't change to raiders.
- Add D4's Clan Honor Script for regular RATs.
- Don't let any enemy join RAT team if they are RAT and the enemy.
- Make the jet pack have fuel.
- Make the terminal faster to hack.
- Try to prevent wall shooting.
- Add a ally team.

This is all I came up with, you may criticize and add on to the list. This is how I can think of it being more fair and stuff.
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LordOptimism is not online. LordOptimism
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01 Aug 2011 09:01 AM
Bump.
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ethanc is not online. ethanc
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01 Aug 2011 09:01 AM
Nice list but bases are ment to be unfair.

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LordOptimism is not online. LordOptimism
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01 Aug 2011 09:03 AM
I don't see the shut down logo, so it isn't.
Nopicsoritdidnthappen.
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DarkArcane is not online. DarkArcane
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01 Aug 2011 09:04 AM
I only read the SMO one. I will read the Celeste one now.



But... the VAK door isn't really a problem.


Because, it is on the side. Sometimes VAK spawn on the opposite side. Oh, and if RAT are so elite they can just stack inside the base and open it from the inside.


Also, Celeste's is 30 minutes.


~DA
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ethanc is not online. ethanc
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01 Aug 2011 09:04 AM
Lol,I was waiting for some one to say that.

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ethanc is not online. ethanc
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01 Aug 2011 09:05 AM
Oh another point a timer should be added to Fort Celeste or els there's no way to prove you've won.
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LordOptimism is not online. LordOptimism
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01 Aug 2011 09:05 AM
Dark, I forgot about that, I'll add that.
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rossb654mail is not online. rossb654mail
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01 Aug 2011 09:06 AM
I wouldn't add turrets to celeste.
It already has a turret that mega-spawnkills ;)
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DarkArcane is not online. DarkArcane
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01 Aug 2011 09:06 AM
@ Lord.

Alright, it was just constructive criticism.

If it sounds like flaming... well, it isn't.


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LordOptimism is not online. LordOptimism
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01 Aug 2011 09:07 AM
By put turrets on the side, I mean move them.
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DarkArcane is not online. DarkArcane
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01 Aug 2011 09:09 AM
@Lord.


It seems the improvements for celeste... only make it harder to get in...


Or at least some of them.

But I get what your saying about the VIP.

But what about when RAT lock themselves in the control room?


~DA
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LordOptimism is not online. LordOptimism
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01 Aug 2011 09:10 AM
You use the firewall hacker or use VIP... duh.
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stephen5 is not online. stephen5
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01 Aug 2011 09:13 AM
Thread of truth.

Nice Sgt
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LordOptimism is not online. LordOptimism
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01 Aug 2011 09:14 AM
Thanks Steve.
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Mistermaniac22 is not online. Mistermaniac22
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01 Aug 2011 09:16 AM
People will always say bases are unfair if they are on the opposing "side"

I have gotten used to it.
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Pinorska is not online. Pinorska
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01 Aug 2011 09:16 AM
You can camglitch it.
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LordOptimism is not online. LordOptimism
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01 Aug 2011 09:19 AM
Pin, it is hard to cam glitch the control room. Just sayin'.
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LordOptimism is not online. LordOptimism
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01 Aug 2011 09:23 AM
Dark, this does not make Celeste more un-fair. I don't see how.
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LordNobhead is not online. LordNobhead
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01 Aug 2011 09:30 AM
EthanC is right, base's are ment to be unfair, like I always say you dont siege a fair castle do you?

But some of your suggestions could be applied.
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LordOptimism is not online. LordOptimism
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01 Aug 2011 09:31 AM
I know, I don't care about fair or un-fair bases, I just don't want to see these flame war threads about un-fair bases.
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Falric is not online. Falric
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01 Aug 2011 09:36 AM
Just the lag, nothing else


~Person with VAK account which is banned
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LordOptimism is not online. LordOptimism
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01 Aug 2011 09:38 AM
Falric, stop VAKKING my thread up. You're looking at this a VAK point of view. Stop being suborn and look at it like you aren't RAT or VAK.
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Falric is not online. Falric
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01 Aug 2011 09:40 AM
This account is on RAT and SMO is practically easy to trespass, just use your sense of command to make a difference
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LordOptimism is not online. LordOptimism
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01 Aug 2011 09:41 AM
It isn't. When your running when VACs are shooting at you, and snipers on the tower are shooting at you, then when you are about to jump a lag spike hits and you fall.
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