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Re: Fun Fact: 600,000 parents wanting to adopt, 129,000 children waiting to be adopted

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Angstrom93 is not online. Angstrom93
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25 Jul 2011 09:20 PM
So why aren't they adopted? Red tape and bureaucracy.

Contrary to popular belief, adoption is a FAR better option than .ab.0.rt.ion.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/07/AR2008110702807.html?
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Person299 is not online. Person299
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25 Jul 2011 09:20 PM
129,000 is it? 0_0
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HenryMorganOfPanama is not online. HenryMorganOfPanama
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25 Jul 2011 09:21 PM
I heard that Russia also has some major complications with adoption, and Haiti, jesus, don't get me started on how hard it is to get children out of Haiti.
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Zct13 is not online. Zct13
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25 Jul 2011 09:24 PM
Something I take issue with is unwanted pregs when the girl isn`t of age.

And by that, I mean there would be medical consequences for ... say a 15 year old to try to have a child.

Trust me, im all for saying, "You did this, now fix it". but not at the cost of one, or both of their lives/well-beings.
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Angstrom93 is not online. Angstrom93
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25 Jul 2011 09:31 PM
It would not cost either of them anything... there are alternative methods of birth.....
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ufo973 is not online. ufo973
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25 Jul 2011 10:25 PM
Wow
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EndTheModigarchy is not online. EndTheModigarchy
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25 Jul 2011 10:32 PM
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Angstrom93 is not online. Angstrom93
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25 Jul 2011 10:36 PM
If the alternative is murder, of course they should be forced to. Quit changing your argument, and don't use personal attacks as arguments.
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Person299 is not online. Person299
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25 Jul 2011 10:40 PM
"I really don't want to bother, but in my view, you're a terrible person if you think women should be forced, by the state no less, to give birth to a child they don't want."
wth? We're terrible people for thinking that girls who don't know what happens when they BLANK wanting to murder their children is wrong?
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FidelACastro is not online. FidelACastro
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25 Jul 2011 11:23 PM
Thorae.

if you want to give birth you should be able to if you don't want to give birth then you shouldn't have to.

And it's really not murder.It's bascally stopping the baby to finish being delevoped and come out out by doing some stuff.
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Person299 is not online. Person299
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25 Jul 2011 11:53 PM
Stopping the baby from developing and having it "come out by doing stuff" has the nasty lil side effect of killing it, so some people get the apparently crazy idea that knowingly killing a baby is, y'know, murder and all.
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reptilekid is not online. reptilekid
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25 Jul 2011 11:58 PM
its not tho. and its there choice. big deal. at leas there not have the baby then murdering it
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26 Jul 2011 12:08 AM
"I really don't want to bother, but in my view, you're a terrible person if you think women should be forced, by the state no less, to give birth to a child they don't want."

We dn't want your bias opinion it IS wrong no matter your religon,perspective, side on the matter,or anything else it IS murder and you ARE doing something wrong
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HenryMorganOfPanama is not online. HenryMorganOfPanama
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26 Jul 2011 12:47 AM
We don't want your bias opinion?

Who is we?

Do you have multiple personality disorders?
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reptilekid is not online. reptilekid
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26 Jul 2011 10:50 AM
ITS NOT MURDER!!! Its there choice deal with it
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Angstrom93 is not online. Angstrom93
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26 Jul 2011 11:06 AM
It wasn't "their choice" until 1973, so please stop using "it is their choice" as an argument. That makes as much sense as.me using "It isn't their choice" as an argument.
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Person299 is not online. Person299
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26 Jul 2011 11:24 AM
US Law states that you could be charged for murder for killing an unborn baby at any stage of development, but it's ok when the preg_nant woman wants to? That's just messed up.
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iReggae is not online. iReggae
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26 Jul 2011 11:29 AM
"We don't want your bias opinion?

Who is we?

Do you have multiple personality disorders?"


So do you want her bias opinion?

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Mrsnakeman is not online. Mrsnakeman
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26 Jul 2011 11:29 AM
Fun fact about my family: I have a cousin who lives in Minnesota, and she's adopted. She is from Russia.
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HenryMorganOfPanama is not online. HenryMorganOfPanama
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26 Jul 2011 12:04 PM

So do you want her bias opinion?

Bias or not, it still helps the debate.
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reptilekid is not online. reptilekid
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26 Jul 2011 12:30 PM
Its not murder when they stop it its murder when someone walks up and say kills the women killing the baby. i whatch a show called law and order and one time the boy---friend killed the girl cause she was having his baby. so he was charged for about 3 differnt cases of murder
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Zct13 is not online. Zct13
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26 Jul 2011 01:58 PM
It wasn't "their choice" until 1973, so please stop using "it is their choice" as an argument. That makes as much sense as.me using "It isn't their choice" as an argument.
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And women didn`t have rights before the 20th century, you can`t use the fact that society took time to recognise something as an argument against it.

"Hey, back in the day we had seperate bathrooms"
"That`s bad"
"Shuddap, you can`t use that as an argument, people back then supported it so it`s cool"
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Angstrom93 is not online. Angstrom93
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26 Jul 2011 02:20 PM
Ugh. My point totally flew over your head. He was presenting "it's her choice" as if it were an irrefutable fact that has been universally accepted since the dawn of time, rather than what it actually is, an opinion. I was just saying it's only been that way for about 40 years, and it is one of the most stratifying issues of all time.
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reptilekid is not online. reptilekid
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05 Aug 2011 05:35 PM
whatever you say wont make a difference people can do what they want they can have the baby or not its thier CHOICE!
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CastIron is not online. CastIron
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05 Aug 2011 05:59 PM
I'm not even going to get into this.
Preview of what is going to happen:
RAEGGGGGGGGGGGG
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