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| 17 Jul 2011 08:41 PM |
| Next time don't say the Japanese Earthquake was revenge for Pearl Habor. |
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Bobcat48
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| 17 Jul 2011 08:48 PM |
| I thought that the Little Boy and the Fat Man were the revenge for Pearl Harbor. |
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| 17 Jul 2011 08:50 PM |
| Nope. They were bombs dropped out of pure hatred and racism. |
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RedDawg
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| 17 Jul 2011 08:51 PM |
| I'm pretty sure they were bombs dropped to win the war. |
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| 17 Jul 2011 08:54 PM |
| Im pretty sure they weren't. We broke Japan's codes and had found codes going back in forth showing Japan was ready to surrender to Russia and America. |
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l3ommer
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| 17 Jul 2011 08:56 PM |
| Those bombs were showing we meant business. |
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| 17 Jul 2011 08:58 PM |
| Uh no. Most of Japan realized you meant business after you firebombed Tokyo to the ground on March 10th killing 100,000 people. HUR! |
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RedDawg
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| 17 Jul 2011 08:59 PM |
Well they asked for it.
They didn't have to bomb Pearl Harbor. |
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l3ommer
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:00 PM |
| Well did they officially come out with word on they surrender? Uh no. They wanted to keep on fighting, then we gave them a boom, then they had enough... |
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:05 PM |
You do realize the attack on Pearl Harbor came after an extensive oil embargo which forced Japan to have to take the Dutch Indies (Drawing the Netherlands into a war btw) and also is the reason they attacked Pearl Harbor. So they could secure more oil.
And Japan was already trying to make attempts to create peace ovetures through Russian channels in Mid July of 1945. How America knew this? THEY BROKE THERE CODES! THERE WAS NO NEED FOR AN INVASION! THE US WANTED UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER! JAPAN WAS WILLING TO MAKE PEACE AND NEGOTIATE! |
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RedDawg
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:06 PM |
What happened 70 years ago was 70 years ago.
Japan is a great nation. |
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Dorian26
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:08 PM |
| I thought Japan did Pearl Harbor because we wouldnt trade with them any more =p |
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:09 PM |
| Yes, oil embargo. They need the oil to run a nation, so they invaded the Dutch East Indies. |
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mark1983
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:13 PM |
| But an attack wasn't needed. So they asked for it. |
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:15 PM |
| Yes it was! The US was getting pissed at Japan's conquests and Japan wanted those colonies, but the US wouldn't budge, so Japan attacked them to knock the US fleet out of action so they could have a free hand, which they did. So, its America's fault. |
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mark1983
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:18 PM |
| -_-. They wouldn't budge because Pearl Harbor is in Hawaii Why would we give up a state for someone who we didn't want to give oil to. |
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tatoberry
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:25 PM |
there's actually no evidence that we cracked any codes that said that the japanese were surrendering. and you're wrong if you think that they would surrender to russia, considering how they were never at war with one another, and russia already knew that japan was not a threat (richard sorge).
and if japan actually wanted peace, why did they ignore the potsdam decleration? |
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Zct15
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:31 PM |
Oh my god the amount of stupid and ignorance in sports forum is killing me.
Go back to your man-lust SP, it`s what your good at, leave the politics to the big boys in WWC.
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tatoberry
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:31 PM |
And Japan was already trying to make attempts to create peace ovetures through Russian channels in Mid July of 1945. _________________________________________________ russia and japan weren't at war in WWII that would be stupid and it's unlilkely russia would've ever listened to japan because of the russo-japanese war
How America knew this? THEY BROKE THERE CODES! THERE WAS NO NEED FOR AN INVASION! THE US WANTED UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER! JAPAN WAS WILLING TO MAKE PEACE AND NEGOTIATE! __________________________________________________ so was the US you're forgetting that the atomic bombs were the last resort |
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Zct15
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:33 PM |
russia and japan weren't at war in WWII that would be stupid and it's unlilkely russia would've ever listened to japan because of the russo-japanese war _______________________________________________
Look up Allies. Then look up Axis.
>Axis-Japan >Allies-Russia/USSR
Christ your stupid. |
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tatoberry
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:33 PM |
@zct
it's funny because this Worldwidechatter guy hasn't said anything right so far
how about you guys understand politics and history first before lecturing others on it
and OP only came here because he believes in the stereotype that all people who like sports are stupid, although he made obvious logical mistakes in his posts |
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Zct15
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:37 PM |
how about you guys understand politics and history first before lecturing others on it
and OP only came here because he believes in the stereotype that all people who like sports are stupid, although he made obvious logical mistakes in his posts _____________________________________________
We do understand politics. We debate them all the time.
This thread proves your all a bunch of fat Americans who sit around their computers. That or scrawny weaklings. This whole section is a bunch of wannabe jocks.
Im sad to be within the same landmass as you people, your just as bad as the people who compared the Japanese earthquake to Pearl Harbor. Your the reason the world justifiably hates America. |
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:37 PM |
I am getting to go for a run. Thats why. And Russia did declare war on Japan you idiot.
That coupled with the fact that Japan treated the Emperor like god, and the Potsdam Declaration basically said NO EMPEROR FER U! it would be like creating a peace treaty for Iran and saying you cannot praise Allah anymore or something like that. |
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tatoberry
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:37 PM |
Look up Allies. Then look up Axis.
>Axis-Japan >Allies-Russia/USSR
Christ your stupid. _________________________________________ you're stupid
war is not a "good guys/bad guys" thing where people take sides and they're automatically at war with the other side
the US never declared war on finland, which was an axis power.
and think logically for a second
japan is right off of the coast of russia all of russia's troops were on the western front, fighting the germans japan also had troops in china, directly south of russia if they were at war, japan would've taken eastern russia
but you're a little bit right, they did declare war on japan august 8th 1945
two days after the first bomb, one day before the second bomb, a week before the war was over |
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tatoberry
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| 17 Jul 2011 09:40 PM |
And Russia did declare war on Japan you idiot. _______________________________ 8/8/45 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
That coupled with the fact that Japan treated the Emperor like god, and the Potsdam Declaration basically said NO EMPEROR FER U! ______________________________ "the elimination "for all time [of] the authority and influence of those who have deceived and misled the people of Japan into embarking on world conquest""
they're discussing war criminals. the emporer would've been one of them |
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