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briguy9876 is not online. briguy9876
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06 Jul 2011 07:16 PM
(I tried this in RT. Might fare better here)

1. The Place Hub

Telamon and the other devs have recently created Place to Place teleportation - a script activates in one place, you get removed from your current game, and the other one loads in the same window. You only spawn in the new place (would be nice if you can control where they spawn if they just joined for teleported in)

So one grand idea I want to attempt is having a place "Hub" with a bunch of teleports to as many places in Roblox as possible. It would be upkept, places added each week. The more popular places would move closer to the entrance of the hub, and the not-so-popular places will move to the back. (one thing is to sell "spot" to move closer to the front of the hub, but this is in a grey area of the rules)

Then the user can link back to the Hub in their place - effectively creating one of the most popular meeting places in Roblox. "Hey lets go here! *everyone follows* alright I'm bored here *everyone goes back and finds a new place*"

Pros:
-Users only have to visit one place (assuming place owners link back to the Hub)
-Becomes a big hangout
-Places can get visits they probably wouldn't get.

Cons:
-Requires constant upkeep; can't be automated.
-If place owners don't link back to Hub, it's unfair to other places in the hub.
-Hub could become massive

Solutions:
-Pay to get into hub. (if your place is popular, you'll have enough to get in)
-Only allow places from the "past week" list
-Places get removed after so long in the Hub.

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Global VIP

Okay, I tossed this idea out ages ago but no one took it. It's quite simple: a VIP shirt that works in a lot of places, not just one.

How it works: Place owners join the global program. The price of shirt raises set amount. More people in the Global VIP program, the more expensive the shirt.

Pros:
-Users don't have to change shirts
-Encourages you to visit other places the shirt works at
-Users without BC can join

Cons:
-NO PROFITS FROM VIP SALES
-More popular places should raise the price of the shirt more, but can't
-Not everyone would want into the program, making it unpopular.
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So? Opinions? I want some ideas before I start to figure these out, if at all.
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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06 Jul 2011 07:23 PM
"would be nice if you can control where they spawn if they just joined for teleported in"

That *COULD* be nice, but what if you teleport to the winners spawn in an obby, or something similar?
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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06 Jul 2011 07:24 PM
The games page is there for a reason, still, so I don't really see the point of the hub.. =/

If players want to talk together about going to a place, that's what party chat and other features are for.
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LocalChum is not online. LocalChum
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06 Jul 2011 07:25 PM
I love your new place teleporting idea - It was on the survey a while ago, wasn't it? I guess you finally got around to it :)
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bunnybunn264 is not online. bunnybunn264
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06 Jul 2011 07:26 PM
If you plan to make the teleports to the individual places a brick, keep the teleports modest. As in, a brick or two. Nobody would want to go to a hub that has 1e4 teleports, which would...

1. Cause plenty of lag
2. Nobody could find a place they're looking for

But your idea does sound pretty good. I think you could probably make some tool that would take the IDs of the places on the front pages and create a place with teleports to them.

Another problem, though, if you get places off the front page: Most of the games on the front page are terrible. How will you keep quality places in the hub? Most front-page places are just OD hangouts. I would only go to a hub if I could browse new quality games every week or so, like Heli Wars, Aldacre, or Gladiator Minigames.
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LocalChum is not online. LocalChum
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06 Jul 2011 07:28 PM
Instead of global VIP, maybe global data persistence? If the first person to get global VIP got it for 1 tix, then he'd 'HAX' every place. I don't really like the global VIP idea that much, sorry.
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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06 Jul 2011 07:28 PM
The global VIP would be an idea, but switching shirts isn't a problem anymore with the badge service (you don't need to wear the shirt).

In fact, a VIP shirt doesn't make much sense. Why would it be a shirt? We use shirts because they're a simple thing to sell/wear. But in fact, if we could have a new kind of asset that could be sold and would be used specifically for selling, that would be more useful. It'd prevent the catalog's tshirt section from being spammed with tshirts that aren't really tshirts.

Also, not much places would use the global VIP. Players only sell VIP for profit. If they didn't care about the money, they could as well make the VIP free..
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crazypotato4 is not online. crazypotato4
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06 Jul 2011 07:29 PM
The place teleporting feature sounds cool, but this "Hub" sounds like it would just be a laggy version of the games page. Useless in my opinion.

I don't have an opinion on the global VIP. Trying to figure out how many places use it could become a lost cause, as people could just use BadgeService to check if a person has the shirt, regardless of whether their place is in whatever list you are going to use to check who uses it.

And let me guess, the RT post was spammed with "hi" and "front page lol"?

front page
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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06 Jul 2011 07:32 PM
Also, the price of the global VIP would increase WAAAY too fast.

1 million players buy it and the price will be of one million tickets... (and that's incase it only increases from one ticket per buy...)

Only rich people will get it, which is bad and doesn't make sense.


Rich players and players with lots of visits shouldn't be advantaged.

Good places should be more important than popular places.
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Legend26 is not online. Legend26
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06 Jul 2011 07:33 PM
I've actually played around with this sort of idea and it's a good one. The problem is getting people who want to add their places to the list.

-Legend-
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briguy9876 is not online. briguy9876
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06 Jul 2011 07:36 PM
I was hoping the fact that I'm a mod would help push the project on faster.
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crazypotato4 is not online. crazypotato4
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06 Jul 2011 07:39 PM
briguy ill buy ur banhamer for 61 tix
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Spectrumw is not online. Spectrumw
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06 Jul 2011 07:42 PM
Honestly, I just find this a way to make roblox's managers richer.
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nickmaster24 is not online. nickmaster24
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06 Jul 2011 07:44 PM
WTH? A mod is spamming :?
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bunnybunn264 is not online. bunnybunn264
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06 Jul 2011 07:48 PM
briguy is abusing his Moderator badge to get publicity! Like most American politicians!
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Sorcus is not online. Sorcus
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06 Jul 2011 07:49 PM
I am not sure how some of you here are saying that the hub will lag? Are you thinking of a single hub connecting to like 10,000 places or something? At that point, the hub would lose its purpose in my opinion.

Personally, I would never have a hub of any sort that links to more than 10+ places. Also, you can teleport to a particular spawn on a different level.

~Sorcus
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Spectrumw is not online. Spectrumw
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06 Jul 2011 07:50 PM
@Sorcus
In my opinion, Games page is way more effective and fast.
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nickmaster24 is not online. nickmaster24
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06 Jul 2011 07:50 PM
This should be in S&I...
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Sorcus is not online. Sorcus
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06 Jul 2011 07:52 PM
Hmm, sure if I am looking for different games, the games page would be faster. I guess. But I think teleportation opens a whole new realm of possibilities. But not a fan of generic hubs, whose only purpose is to connect to other levels.

~Sorcus
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PurpleKiwi is not online. PurpleKiwi
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06 Jul 2011 07:52 PM
What if someone hacks the hub? Then everyone would be affected by it. It would be like a train station exploding.

Or like a Ghast disabling a Nethergate when you have no Flint&Steel.
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bunnybunn264 is not online. bunnybunn264
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06 Jul 2011 07:54 PM
"So one grand idea I want to attempt is having a place "Hub" with a bunch of teleports to as many places in Roblox as possible."

And this doesn't mean 1e4 teleports in a long hall capable of lagging supercomputer farms?

Still, I don't see the point. It will just have popular places, not _quality_ places or _fun_ places, so it'd be like a slow Games page. You're going to _REALLY_ need to work on getting _GOOD_ places to the front of this "hub", or else it will become as sick and pathetic of a failure as the Games page has become.
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PurpleKiwi is not online. PurpleKiwi
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06 Jul 2011 07:56 PM
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xSIXx is not online. xSIXx
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06 Jul 2011 07:58 PM
@purple

that is the most annoying thing... EVAR.


Anyway, I dun't like the place hub idea or the global VIP... lol.

Questions:

1. What if a non-BC member tries to teleport to a BC-Only place?
2. Are we in control of this service? Or is it ROBLOX only?
3. If we are in control, what if some OBC member makes 100 places and abuses the feature by teleporting the player to each and every single one of the places for tickets?
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SDuke524 is not online. SDuke524
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06 Jul 2011 07:59 PM
Whenever I first saw the teleportation to other games on the survey, I thought of big stargates that you could drive cars through or planes so you could have huge wars/pinkslip races without having to share the models/scripts in the first place. Yet just teleporting is nice, however at least keeping tools would be nice, if it doesn't already haven't tried it yet.
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xSIXx is not online. xSIXx
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06 Jul 2011 08:01 PM
Wait... if we are in control of it, will that annoying popup keep on appearing saying "do you wish to teleport away from this place?"?
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