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Re: A far more efficnt way to get rid of bad players, other than the ban, (V2)

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sean is not online. sean
Joined: 27 Feb 2006
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18 Apr 2010 10:14 PM
I) MY THOUGHTS ON THE CURRENT SYSTEM FOR BANS & WHY THIS IS BETTER
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Well, I have always looked at ROBLOXes banning system as a fair, and exemplary way to get rid of spammers, swearers, OD'ers, and other rule breakers. But I am starting to see that it's absolutely terrible for ROBLOX now adays. ROBLOX has a good policy for the number of offences you have before serious bans occur, but there are so many other, more eficent ways of getting rid of these nuissances to ROBLOX.

I am talking about a total reform of the system ROBLOX uses, to punish its misbehaving players. For one, instead of banning, or account deletiong, which should never happen, we could instead mute a player, and only allow them to super safe chat for a whileMake them unable to comment, or post on the forums. Not allowing them to commnicate with anyone on ROBLX, blocking PM's, and possibly not allowing people to play a game.




II) THE SYSTEM ITSELF
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User recieves a WARNING

1ST offence:
-No chatting in-games
-No commenting
-Account creation suspended until end of punishment
-3 days

User recieves a WARNING

2ND offence:
-No chatting in-games
-No commenting
-No use of forums
-No use of PM's
-Account creation suspended until end of punishment
-5 days

3RD offence:
-No chatting in-games
-No commenting
-No use of forums
-No use of PM's
-Account creation suspended until end of punishment
-No creating games
-10 days

4RTH offence:
-No chatting in-games
-No commenting
-No use of forums
-No use of PM's
Account creation suspended - 30 days
-No playing/creating games
-Accounts hats/clothing - Suspended, and un-usable until the end of offence.
-15 days

5TH offence:

-No chatting in-games - 45 days
-No commenting - 45 days
-No use of forums
-No use of PM's
Account creation suspended - PERMANENT
-No playing/creating games
-Accounts hats/clothing reset - PERMANENT
-30 days



III))HOW WOULD THIS STOP PEOPLE FROM BREAKING THE RULES, ANY BETTER THAN THE CURRENT SYSTEM?
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With the current system, people do bad things, they get warnings, then they get banned. This one carries that same basic principle, but takes it to a more extreme level, by limiting the ROBLOX experience, instead of ending it entirely. And although limiting sounds LESS extreme than ending than ending it, not being able to play ROBLOX you want to, is the worst thing of all. Image being on the third offence for this system, and not being able to chat to anyone, or make a new account for 10 days. Although you can still make/play games, what's the point in not being able to socialize the way you want. The though of having something, and not being able to do anything with it, and not being able to get something new, is scary indeed.

You can't complaing about your ban, you can't tell why you're ignoring friends, you can't do anything. The true punishment is cutting people off from others. With the current system, people just make an alt, and talk, spam, and do whatever, because they want to. No one is really being punished, just delayed until they make a new account.And as harsh as this sounds, it's absolutely necessary for ROBLOXes out of control community.

But there still are people who will spam, who will exploit, and will make little swears in building game susing bricks, no system can stop that, without being unfair to the user. This way, is fair, and allows people to see the error of their actions, and become more likely to stop. I know my Three 14-day bans never stopped me, but this, this would. This is almost a preventative measure, made to affect the user faster, punish them slightly more harsh at the start, and make them a better player after their account is limited. Fare better than the 'Warning, ban, ban, ban", which is becoming extremely outdated, and inefficent.




IV)WHY DO WE NEED A CHANGE? WHAT IF I DON'T WANT IT?
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Most people want to see a better ROBLOX, and how can that ever happen if people from as far back as 2007 are breaking the rules, and being mean to other users? There is nothing to truly stop repeat offenders, and there probably never will. But stopping people from breaking the rules quickly, is what this system of account limitations is trying to achieve. The current ban system only stops users who don't like ROBLOX that much, or what they do on ROBLOX, to simply make another account, and play. Those who loike brekaing the rules, have no problems doing it, and won't stop until their bored.

Is it not more suitable to have them become mute to ROBLOX, and have things taken away, than to simply get rid of their account, and have them move on to another? If people could accept that breaking the rules is bad, then maybe ROBLOX could be bettered. The current system is obviously not doing enough to help us, but this one will.

And there will be ALOT of users, who will obviously be against this idea, and do everything they can to discredit it. You know why? Because they are the repeat offenders, they are the people who time and time again break the rules, and just move on. With this system, they know they could not stand playing anymore unless they fallow the rules. They would rather quick than get to their 3RD/4RTH offence. It is things like this that scare people. There are still flaws, and these flaws may never be fixed, IN ANY system, but this will still decrease these so called 'NOOBS', to a minimum. An all time low not seen on ROBLOX for years. So I hope you can support this idea, and try to get it noticed. This IS POSSIBLE to do, and should be done, support a BETTER ROBLOX!


-Sean





(Keep giving me the flaws of the system, and what should be added/taken away. This is like the Hybrid server idea, a slow evolution into something great, and near flawless. And it's up to you to help, SO GET POSTING!)


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Legomario is not online. Legomario
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18 Apr 2010 10:15 PM
It would affect you then. LOL
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sean is not online. sean
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18 Apr 2010 10:16 PM
And I have come to accept people who won't take the time to read something I put alot of thought into. And to those that say, TL;DR, please remember I never said, TL;DW(To long; Didn't Write), even though writing takes way longer. To those that read and make intelligible comments, thank you, and to those that don't, I understand.
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lando64000 is online. lando64000
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18 Apr 2010 10:18 PM
I dont like it...
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qaz32152 is not online. qaz32152
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18 Apr 2010 10:18 PM
Yes!!! let's do a coup detat!!!


but in reality, i support this.
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sean is not online. sean
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18 Apr 2010 10:18 PM
No, I didn't make this public until now, but I took a vow to never be ba.nned again. And this only enforced my will to do so.
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mariolego465 is not online. mariolego465
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18 Apr 2010 10:19 PM
Legomario won.
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BrineMaster is not online. BrineMaster
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18 Apr 2010 10:19 PM
Sean, you look like a mouse...you seem like a 2nd grader to me, it's how you act...
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sean is not online. sean
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18 Apr 2010 10:19 PM
Why not Lando?
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WeirdalYankovic is not online. WeirdalYankovic
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18 Apr 2010 10:19 PM
Thats looks good but shouldnt that be in SaI.
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HadesDude is not online. HadesDude
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18 Apr 2010 10:19 PM
Lol, I told gordonrox24 the muting players from the forums idea. Great minds think alike.
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BrineMaster is not online. BrineMaster
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18 Apr 2010 10:20 PM
Sean is a funny name. Lol.
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sean is not online. sean
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18 Apr 2010 10:20 PM
Brine, how do I act like a 2nd grader? O_O


(Please get back on-topic. T_T)
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Shadows02 is not online. Shadows02
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18 Apr 2010 10:20 PM
The concept is great, but ROBLOX would have challenges 'Blocking' off the users from Creating new users, and not talking in game. Other than that it is a perfectly good idea to improve the system
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pyro is not online. pyro
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18 Apr 2010 10:21 PM
Personally, I can't see how this system works any much more differently from the current one in basic functional intent, all it does is cut them off from everyone else, which removing the account(Temporarily or not temporarily) does, so in a sense, I can't see this being any more effective.

Also, I do think that account deletion for repeat offenders should be kept, since it causes the loss of all their hard-earned items, and when the temporary ban on account creation is lifted, they have to start from the ground up and re-earn everything they had before.
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sean is not online. sean
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18 Apr 2010 10:21 PM
Oh, it would be simple. Force the account into super-safe chat for the duration of the ban. And they already have an account creation suspension in-place, for when they want to use it. And it works great. (Trust me)
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lando64000 is online. lando64000
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18 Apr 2010 10:21 PM
You keep dragging out the ability to not speak and comment on roblox...
Deleting their account for a while usually gets the message through pretty well...
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vehicledude999 is not online. vehicledude999
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18 Apr 2010 10:23 PM
Good effort, but a ban already effectively prevents players from doing the stated, as well as blocks account use.

It's just not any better than what is currently the punishment, and it's unneeded and too much effort is required.
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mariolego465 is not online. mariolego465
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18 Apr 2010 10:23 PM
be QUIET FAIK 05AR!
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ryanxm is not online. ryanxm
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18 Apr 2010 10:23 PM
wow this is a verry nice system and i can see you've thought it through a LOT and im verry impressed



althought it would take a lot of time to do the conversion i think it would be nice


id say for people who hack multiple times though a IP ban

why IP? because that stops their entire system rather then them just making another account and not feeling to penitalised
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GamerElite is not online. GamerElite
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18 Apr 2010 10:23 PM
Meh, I really couldcare less.

I play games where people curse like sailors, it doesn't really afftct me that much.
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sean is not online. sean
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18 Apr 2010 10:23 PM
Pyro, the concept is to keep people on their real accounts forcefully, and keep them from enjoying ROBLOX properly. Once you stop account creation, it becomes much harder for people to want to break the rules, in fear of worse things happening. To me, this would work better than a simple ban, because of the psychological effect. ^_^
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WeirdalYankovic is not online. WeirdalYankovic
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18 Apr 2010 10:23 PM
I like the idea. The two ways are a tye.
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Shadows02 is not online. Shadows02
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18 Apr 2010 10:23 PM
@Sean

Remember people can 'Find Ways Around' it... If they could find a way that they couldn't bypass the creation, it would be perfect
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liater is not online. liater
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18 Apr 2010 10:23 PM
Sean, please post this in the "Suggestions and Ideas" Forum next time please

AW WHO AM I KIDDIN' POST IT ANYWHERE.
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