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Re: Clans will die in 2017.

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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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19 Jan 2017 11:54 AM
But not in the way you think.

Clans as a whole will NOT die in 2017. In fact, they'll only improve.

Why I say clans will die in 2017 is because the traditional format of clans will die in 2017.

The stereotypical rinse and repeat format of clans that's been ongoing for years will fall out of practice and be left on the sideline.

The focus-only-on-war concept of clans will suffer the same fate.

Elitism will fall out of practice and any clan promoting it will be a minority, if not a laughingstock. (We see this already.)

Clans are going to start adapting to the success enjoyed by GoT genres, Star Wars groups, general RP/Clan hybrids. These clans are far more enjoyable (Personal experience,) far more active (personal experience,) and far more varied than our own.

Clans as they are currently have, as stated, a rinse-and-repeat format. Raid, train, and maybe play a game every day. The next day, do the same thing. If people get bored, war a clan. This war usually doesn't even happen and then you move on to the next target to see if you can have a successful war.

If you have one, you just raid each other for a few days or a week and then it's over. Sometimes people can't agree on a victor and you end up arguing over who won for up to a year or more. Other times you spend 2 weeks negotiating and less than a week fighting. Frankly, it's stupid and more boring than you realize.

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Meanwhile, I've seen in GoT genres, "wars" are frequent and handled by the administration of the genre. Clan A wants to war for the Throne, and Clan B is the Crown House.

Clan A rallies 100 people, Clan B rallies 100 people on a specified date. They all go to a Battleground place and fight a giant battle in rounds. The victor of these battles wins the war. It sounds straightforward, and it is, but boy is it fun. Never would you imagine in clans 100-200 people (two servers) fighting simultaneously for a cause of their own; and it didn't even lag that badly.

GoT genres in particular have so many more options than any clan could dream of. Anything you want to do, generally, you can do. They have the equivalent of what we used to have in patrolling. If you own a house, you and your members can mingle at the King's Landing place and do whatever you like. You can sit around and look cool, you can try to recruit people into your group, you could try to duel members of rival houses to prove a point. If you are the Crown House you could have your King sit at the Throne and take on anyone who wants to kill him. You could discuss politics in-game, in RP format, with other houses and form marriages, alliances, or even discuss a war between you or somebody else. If the politics of houses don't suit you, you could forego making one with your friends (anyone can make a house, really, which is the great part of it,) and you could just join a house of your own and partake in its activities.

Outside of King's Landing, houses have their own places and at that point function as their own groups, similar to our own. They may raid, train, or defend their own base. So not only do you have all the options available at King's Landing, which people are ALWAYS playing, but you also have the standard clan fare.

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This is just ONE example of groups that are far more entertaining than our own and far more successful. Clans are starting to realize this and they are starting to move to a path where these things are incorporated more into their own groups. Clans do not need to stay the same, and if they do, they will fail and be left behind in history.

The future is appealing to a far larger audience, giving your members more to do, and not prioritize wars or winning above absolutely everything else. The fewer members, the worse it is, and the more people you exclude the more likely your clan will die off in time.

Of course, you don't need to model your clan off of a TSK/GoT genre, or a Star Wars genre, or whatever, but there are many options. I see clans based off of Assassins from Assassins' Creed, I see pirate groups, I see Roman groups (very popular, btw,) and far more. If you can dream it, you can do it, and I think that's something we forget on C&G. We stick to a pre-defined formula and we resist change or anything we are not familiar with.

The people who are adapting to the shifting Roblox demographic and community will succeed. The clans who complain about every update Roblox makes, who complain about any change their clan makes trying to move forward, are the people who will be left behind, grasping onto C&G and relying on its hype to survive while others have moved on and have succeeded far more than they ever will.

The future is the future, and so is change. Change your ideology, adapt to change, and move forward or be stuck with what we have now.


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PrinceAtor is not online. PrinceAtor
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19 Jan 2017 12:00 PM
Very true all clans need to be more like UCR


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OrderBae is not online. OrderBae
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19 Jan 2017 12:00 PM
Yeah, agreed.
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flybomb is not online. flybomb
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19 Jan 2017 12:04 PM
Good points, but I also think that THIS is a cycle. People will get bored of that and translation back to our form of clans. Not to mention that they were the minority not that long ago. If you like a genre go for it. That's why we still have all this activity.
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flybomb is not online. flybomb
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19 Jan 2017 12:05 PM
Transition *
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Externalization is online. Externalization
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19 Jan 2017 12:07 PM
Agreed
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commanderfury is not online. commanderfury
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19 Jan 2017 12:08 PM
RP groups (kind of like the robine) are the future also


my name is omar i come from afar
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Igor1590 is not online. Igor1590
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19 Jan 2017 12:15 PM
AA rallied 180 in two servers once.
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JNICK is not online. JNICK
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19 Jan 2017 12:15 PM
so less traditional styled groups


more role-play based 'themed' groups

other groups inside of the 'themed' main group makes it so people have a voice and wanna be at the top so they all struggle to be the top = makes groups rlly active
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Lissitski is not online. Lissitski
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19 Jan 2017 12:16 PM
Yeah it seems betting on these Rp clans like Rome, GoT, WWII, Star Wars and original genres is kind of a way to go, because they're like how clans used to be in a way when it came down to wars, fun and actually...playing the part in the role play.
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Prestkott is not online. Prestkott
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19 Jan 2017 12:17 PM
"This started out very intelligible and then I realized that you're just promoting your group"


whend he say that./



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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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19 Jan 2017 12:22 PM
"Good points, but I also think that THIS is a cycle. People will get bored of that and translation back to our form of clans. Not to mention that they were the minority not that long ago. If you like a genre go for it. That's why we still have all this activity."

I disagree. These clans have been succeeding for some time and because you can never really guess what's going to happen, these genres keep you on your feet.


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ProelioSeverloh is not online. ProelioSeverloh
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19 Jan 2017 12:34 PM
actually they'll die because im sure a lot of people are going to college in 2017 and wont have time for this game. but of course there will be the occasional basement dweller crap posting and preferring lego warfare over socializing
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Drazeox is not online. Drazeox
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19 Jan 2017 12:39 PM
rp is the way forward for clans
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Anxiobear is not online. Anxiobear
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19 Jan 2017 12:41 PM
can you give me an example of some of these groups cause that sounds a lot better than what we have
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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19 Jan 2017 12:41 PM
"actually they'll die because im sure a lot of people are going to college in 2017 and wont have time for this game. but of course there will be the occasional basement dweller crap posting and preferring lego warfare over socializing "

That's like saying nobody is going to recruit new people into their clans. Of course most of the old generation are going to quit.


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UncleAli is not online. UncleAli
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19 Jan 2017 12:46 PM
this is true tho

like, he's right

you cant make boring clans or forts anymore, it's 2017, having a endless sea mesh isnt acceptable anymore

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FaIIOutBot is not online. FaIIOutBot
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19 Jan 2017 12:49 PM
Clans should have thousands of people at trainings!

CLANS ARE DEAD
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Flurcium is not online. Flurcium
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19 Jan 2017 12:51 PM
@ali endless sea meshes are acceptable as long as you do it good
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matem is not online. matem
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19 Jan 2017 12:53 PM
The same thing is for every clan, there's nothing new. Unless you update lore occasionally and have people RP about something else new, or if you have new terms to wars or new styles of warring.
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UncleAli is not online. UncleAli
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19 Jan 2017 12:55 PM
but nobody does it goed tho

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Purgmetical is not online. Purgmetical
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19 Jan 2017 12:59 PM
Void will revolutionize the clan world with rolling on the ground and recoil weapons
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UncleAli is not online. UncleAli
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19 Jan 2017 01:00 PM
HNG RECOIL

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Shattered_Realities is not online. Shattered_Realities
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19 Jan 2017 01:04 PM
lol if clans follow GoT genres then you will die even faster

those things are OD cesspools and a lot of standing around doing nothing with no context


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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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19 Jan 2017 01:05 PM
Ok


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