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joelastley555 is not online. joelastley555
Joined: 29 Aug 2013
Total Posts: 70
30 Oct 2017 06:03 AM
A message to every developer out there, and I should hope everyone else listens to it:

I know how you feel. You, me, developers all around the world pour their hearts into virtual games for others to enjoy.
They spend money on developement, when they might have needed it more.
They have all the hassle of hackers on their hands.
They have all the trouble of the game engine (ROBLOX in this case) changing.
They devote their lives to the games they make.
And what do they get?
A lot of backlash. Even if its the most popular game in the world of the internet.
Developers around the world do NOT deserve this!
It should be considered abuse and harrassment!
They are still the same person inside and out!
And they should get no less respect than anyone else.
If people knew the challenges of creating code, testing it, finding out that it wont work and then having to manually debug it yourself, people would treat developers with a lot more respect.
They dont have to make these games.
But they do anyway, for everyone else.
And when people call developers 'mean' and 'selfish' for not making them an admin or adding something they want, it disgusts me.
If they really want those features and privileges, why dont they go ahead and make a replica of the game themselves.
On their own.
Without following from a "Dummys guide to making a game" book that they bought for nothing but money.
Or spending less than 100£/$/whatever on their projects.
And dealing with the complaints of the players.
Then they would know.
Developers do NOT deserve this.
They are the same as you and me.
Its not their fault they have a knack for constructing decent games and the like.
And why should they lose all the respect they had before, JUST because they made a good thing that people like?
I wrote this for you.
And for all the developers around the world.
I hope that someday,
Some people will realise what it is like.
And just think before they type.
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joelastley555 is not online. joelastley555
Joined: 29 Aug 2013
Total Posts: 70
30 Oct 2017 06:04 AM
#DevelopersMatterToo #DevelopersNeedRespect #DevelopersAreHumans
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eradite is not online. eradite
Joined: 19 Apr 2016
Total Posts: 195
30 Oct 2017 06:45 AM
A message to every developer out there, and I should hope everyone else listens to it:

I know how you feel. You, me, developers all around the world pour their hearts into virtual games for others to enjoy.
They spend money on developement, when they might have needed it more.
They have all the hassle of hackers on their hands.
They have all the trouble of the game engine (ROBLOX in this case) changing.
They devote their lives to the games they make.
And what do they get?
A lot of backlash. Even if its the most popular game in the world of the internet.
Developers around the world do NOT deserve this!
It should be considered abuse and harrassment!
They are still the same person inside and out!
And they should get no less respect than anyone else.
If people knew the challenges of creating code, testing it, finding out that it wont work and then having to manually debug it yourself, people would treat developers with a lot more respect.
They dont have to make these games.
But they do anyway, for everyone else.
And when people call developers 'mean' and 'selfish' for not making them an admin or adding something they want, it disgusts me.
If they really want those features and privileges, why dont they go ahead and make a replica of the game themselves.
On their own.
Without following from a "Dummys guide to making a game" book that they bought for nothing but money.
Or spending less than 100£/$/whatever on their projects.
And dealing with the complaints of the players.
Then they would know.
Developers do NOT deserve this.
They are the same as you and me.
Its not their fault they have a knack for constructing decent games and the like.
And why should they lose all the respect they had before, JUST because they made a good thing that people like?
I wrote this for you.
And for all the developers around the world.
I hope that someday,
Some people will realise what it is like.
And just think before they type.


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theswagboy0813 is not online. theswagboy0813
Joined: 29 Oct 2015
Total Posts: 37
30 Oct 2017 06:51 AM
me developer too but everyone bully me ;-; and i hate people bully bacon if my games become popular i will use bacon outfit
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joelastley555 is not online. joelastley555
Joined: 29 Aug 2013
Total Posts: 70
30 Oct 2017 09:45 AM
bump because we need people to realise
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joelastley555 is not online. joelastley555
Joined: 29 Aug 2013
Total Posts: 70
30 Oct 2017 10:00 AM
Developers are soo mistreated.
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itZAKU is online. itZAKU
Joined: 02 Apr 2016
Total Posts: 1247
30 Oct 2017 10:53 AM
I'm not sure if you can call yourself much of a developer, if you can't tell the difference between an exploiter and a hacker.
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joelastley555 is not online. joelastley555
Joined: 29 Aug 2013
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30 Oct 2017 11:58 AM
I used "hacker" because it makes people understand it easier. More people know (or think they know" what a hacker is than an exploiter
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drysty is not online. drysty
Joined: 07 Dec 2013
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30 Oct 2017 12:00 PM
post too complicated

disliked skrub who calls himself a dev
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orangewarrior78 is not online. orangewarrior78
Joined: 12 Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3793
30 Oct 2017 12:10 PM
Most devs on here get blacklash because they either make a free modeled tycoon, an obby or some roleplay, which take no effort.

Some devs on here even scam, and some just care about money other than effort.


It's very rare on game design for a dev to make an original game that has effort.

I've seen some enjoyable games on here, but most of the games on this forum are just...awful in my opinion


https://www.roblox.com/library/289054567/Rick-and-Morty-Goodbye-Moonmen
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joelastley555 is not online. joelastley555
Joined: 29 Aug 2013
Total Posts: 70
30 Oct 2017 12:45 PM
i think some people are misunderstanding the term "developer".

A developer is ANYBODY who has ever contributed a substantial, crucial amount to a project.
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joelastley555 is not online. joelastley555
Joined: 29 Aug 2013
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30 Oct 2017 12:46 PM
Also i joined before all of you guys so far so if anything theres a higher chance of me being more experienced. Ya know, all developers start off terrible, then they, over time, start to flourish. ;)
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MehCookie is not online. MehCookie
Joined: 11 Aug 2008
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30 Oct 2017 12:49 PM
apparently join date matters in this game
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itZAKU is online. itZAKU
Joined: 02 Apr 2016
Total Posts: 1247
30 Oct 2017 12:54 PM
Pretty arrogant of you to feel the need to be entitled just because you develop games, yet can't produce quality. No wonder you can get so much black-lash. Don't use your join date as a valid point, lol.


https://www.roblox.com/games/765604410/Roblox-Warfare-Testing
https://www.roblox.com/games/628420710/Zombie-Apocolypse-ALPHA

Pretty low quality games if you ask me.
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RobotDevelopment is not online. RobotDevelopment
Joined: 18 Dec 2012
Total Posts: 377
30 Oct 2017 01:18 PM
Bump,
Negativity to developers is a problem. just because you don't like a game, doesn't mean its a bad game.
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orangewarrior78 is not online. orangewarrior78
Joined: 12 Oct 2013
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30 Oct 2017 01:22 PM
"Respect developers."


*starts insulting developers that criticize this post*


https://www.roblox.com/library/289054567/Rick-and-Morty-Goodbye-Moonmen
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Ntick_Gamer is not online. Ntick_Gamer
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30 Oct 2017 01:22 PM
I am not such a big game dev but still for some reason people still follow me and gaved me respect. But i still know how it feels.
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joelastley555 is not online. joelastley555
Joined: 29 Aug 2013
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30 Oct 2017 03:54 PM
I personally don't get backlash but I am trying to raise awareness
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GleamingAlphabetbird is online. GleamingAlphabetbird
Joined: 03 Sep 2016
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30 Oct 2017 03:57 PM
I really agree with this
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DevNerd10 is not online. DevNerd10
Joined: 22 Dec 2015
Total Posts: 24
30 Oct 2017 04:10 PM
As a developer, I'll have to disagree with this.

There are occupations all over the world where people pour their blood, sweat, and tears into their work for others and they get just as much criticism and backlash. Not just developers. Not only this, but developers being criticised is what makes them better. If developers were praised like gods for every game that they made just because it involved effort, neither you nor I would ever improve. Criticism and backlash are what drives us to improve, and what makes the games better. In reality, it's not just our players bashing us for our work, it is more of a mutualistic relation. We make, they criticize, we improve, they get better games. I extremely encourage everyone to keep giving us a hard time (not bullying or threats though) because if everyone thought Galaga was the perfect game when it came out, ROBLOX would not even exist and we'd still be playing pixelated games in arcades.

Overall, sure, appreciate what developers do, but don't praise them like gods or hold back on the criticism. It's what makes us better.

Peace ;)
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joelastley555 is not online. joelastley555
Joined: 29 Aug 2013
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31 Oct 2017 05:18 AM
Im not talking about criticism.

Im talking about complaints like:

"WHY CANT I BE ADMIN?!?!?"

"I HATE THIS GAME!"

"YOU ARE TERRIBLE!"
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joelastley555 is not online. joelastley555
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31 Oct 2017 05:20 AM
Criticism is an essential. But writing something just because you can that will purposely annoy/upset someone is unneccessary.
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joelastley555 is not online. joelastley555
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31 Oct 2017 06:55 AM
itZAKU you do realise the first is a testing game and the second is in ALPHA
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SkellIington is not online. SkellIington
Joined: 20 Apr 2014
Total Posts: 126
31 Oct 2017 07:01 AM
I don't agree with this and even I'm a developer. If you're sponsoring you game, and personally it's trash then that's your own fault. You need to think before sponsoring such games. A lot of developers create games they think would bring customers, yet lose their attention because it's not fun to play. When sponsoring games it's 50/50 chance it'll become successful.
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joelastley555 is not online. joelastley555
Joined: 29 Aug 2013
Total Posts: 70
01 Nov 2017 05:28 AM
I'm not saying that, Skellington, I am talking about the front page games like Murder Mystery 2, Phantom Forces, etc. ALL of these developers get 10 to 200+ hate and complaint messages EVERY DAY.
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