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Re: Are Clans with RCL and SF dying?

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ValkyrieVicinity is not online. ValkyrieVicinity
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07 Oct 2017 06:39 PM
I've been coming t wonder about this. I used to be a former HR in a lot of groups. I guess I just faded away from it. What do you guys think about Clans, and why are they dying. One possible reason might be because of the Minecraft kids that moved on ROBLOX because of Dan TDM and other former Minecraft youtubers.


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Laedere is online. Laedere
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07 Oct 2017 06:40 PM
that's the dumbest reason ive ever seen


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ValkyrieVicinity is not online. ValkyrieVicinity
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07 Oct 2017 06:41 PM
I don't know, I get that reason all the time when I ask some of my friends who still are involved with the Clan scene.


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McFlexo is not online. McFlexo
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07 Oct 2017 06:43 PM
All clans are dying
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AenysBlackfyre is not online. AenysBlackfyre
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07 Oct 2017 06:50 PM
my thought on why clans are dying is because its too competitive
i mean when i joined back in 2010 we were all cheeks at fighting but now everyone is donely and i can beat kids without even getting hit

and we're all toxic af now hard for new kids to get into it when we beat their cheeks in and talk trash
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ValkyrieVicinity is not online. ValkyrieVicinity
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07 Oct 2017 06:52 PM
Good point.


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chronicool is online. chronicool
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07 Oct 2017 06:56 PM
I don't think very many clans use RCL other than in scrims


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emperormicah is not online. emperormicah
Joined: 31 May 2011
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07 Oct 2017 08:13 PM
yes because all clans are dying

clans are dying because its impossible to get noticed with the thousands of new people joining roblox and pushing all clan related stuff to the bottom. only large clans get noticed but they get in stupid power struggles etc which means they cant grow, they cant war, they cant be clans and you are stuck with the same 'clannies' or 'veterans' moving about on the same groups getting restless and creating the same clan under a different name a thousand times to try and stay relevant when really the clan world is already as good as dead. no one wants to hear someone rant about how superior they are because they were a hr in this clan or that, no one cares if you have been clanning since 2007.

clan recognition is even worse with forums being merged because now the ### ##### where clans could get recognised is being flooded with crap in OT even though it was already getting crap from 'mayor elections' and stuff that isnt even clan related.

If you arent open to clan enemies and allies you arent a clan you are a group or a club its simple enough get out if you arent a clan or talking about clans and dont post your;
- roleplay mayor campaign
- 'Halloween ball'
- hotel recruitment,
- interview/roleplay group rules,
- 'im quitting roblox bye friends post'
- 'total drama handbook rules'

introducing 500 R$ group clans to roblox is what triggered most of this garbage wanna be roleplay clubs to start thinking 'hey clans and guilds must apply to my poo stain i just made because i have brought this thing i saw / i saw this thing i could buy' you cant seriously expect clans to be able to function through this one environment of publicity. how are noobs supposed to come to C&G and find out what groups are good, what groups are at war, how clans even work, what clans are active, which groups are inactive piles of mess when the ratio of relevance to irrelevant trash is 1 to 100. only now you feel the effects of clans dying because for so long clans have made up a good portion of roblox that they were able to sustain themselves even acting like toxic ##### half the time but now you are expected to compete with front page games getting tens of thousands of people, random non-clan groups filling up pages and people not wanting to war anyone because of childish conflicts over rules and raids and who won what and so called veterans coming back and telling everyone how it should be and how it was 'back in the day' and how it worked then.

how can you compete with trash where you have to get explicit permission from everyone you want to compete with. all attempts to 'band together' and join c&g clans into one centralised platform for raids outside of roblox etc fails because half of the clans with influence over their players want to keep this explicit control over who can war them and who cant.

so the reasons clans are dying is because no one wants to risk saving them. the reason clans are dying is because they are all trying to use the same unsustainable system clans were using back in 2012 or even further back and dont realize that the platform has changed and they need to adapt not struggle harder to keep your nostalgic memories of rcl weapons and having everyone screaming that their side won.

if a clan wont change or make themselves better then shove it up to the back and get behind a clan that will. stop procrastinating, stop blaming your failure to change on moderation, skiddy exploiters or war rules or anything else. if your clans dying then finish it off, exile everyone and restart. member count means nothing, visits mean nothing, wars won or lost mean nothing, reputation is nothing.

if your clan wont move forward its dying and if it cant its already dead.
if all the clans on roblox were just deleted or everyone just stopped grovelling over the massive botted superclans, c&g would thrive from the new clans and everyone wanting to compete to be at the top, but that is never going to happen because everyone knows unless they can get as much of a headstart as those groups then those groups will keep the hold over for ages.

and some idiots just going to try and 'call me out' with some crap like 'you know nothing about clans ive never even seen you' because to half of c&g unless you have been here since 2009 and lead 15 super clans all at once and has is on every one of those 'top 50 c&gers' list you are completely irrelevant.

just now jailbreak has more people playing it than every clan base/training centre on roblox, so how is it a surprise clans are unable to be noticed to new comers, the people that in a years time would be running clans. how many super clans can get even 1% of their members on at once but still they are looked up as superior for those numbers. clans are so easy to save if everyone would just ##### ## a small amount of effort but no one is convinced on how to do it so they are just going to decline and keep declining and die.
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Krasys is not online. Krasys
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07 Oct 2017 08:25 PM
are you dying?
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emperormicah is not online. emperormicah
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07 Oct 2017 08:27 PM
only inside
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DaEpikDukeh is online. DaEpikDukeh
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07 Oct 2017 08:34 PM
Because you were in them
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Darazkil is online. Darazkil
Joined: 15 Jun 2017
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07 Oct 2017 08:35 PM
Emperormicah, I agree with you on pretty much all you said. It's annoying how clans are dying out, and whenever someone comes along with a new idea it gets rejected immediately because the person who came up with it isn't one of the generic 20 people who owned all the "good old clans".

Maybe the problem is that we're listening to the "reputable" people. Things might honestly get better if people ignored all the relevant clans and instead threw themselves into the world of unknown clans with new ideas that haven't yet been attempted.
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