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Re: Who ever thought clans were profitable? Capitalistic clans??

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EmperorRyzoft is not online. EmperorRyzoft
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04 Oct 2017 09:35 AM
3 m's from clans

capitalism is the way to go :)


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EmperorRyzoft is not online. EmperorRyzoft
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04 Oct 2017 09:44 AM
You know, for years and years I attempted to assert my video to bigger clans the idea that clans can become capitalistic. I proposed this idea on c&g for years but noone ever believed me and always called me out for just 'words'. Yet, when I have the opportunity to make something amazing myself I took it the fastest I could.

I'v since co-founded TR (Twice as big as my original clan) and out of EVERYTHING I poured into Green Gods I got only community from it, which I LOVED. The only problem with only having a community was there only so often was new people coming in. Nothing was set ins tone to stick around forever.

Almost every clan as the same fate as clans like UCR, RSF, NFC, TGI Your conventional clan will end up being either thrown around or shut-down. This is the same fate for all clans. How do we pro-long a clans lifespan? Capitalism. A clan should NOT have to ask its members for donations but rather offer them things to buy and that will in turn give both you and your clan benefits. It keeps the clan healthy and keeps members happy.

Game-passes are frowned upon in the community which is sad. If you listen to this community and follow it word by word your clan will fail and crumble just like every other C&G clan that existed. I'll even give examples. CSP is a PRIME example of a C&G clan. It's only purpose was to defeat VAK and even failed in doing so.


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own_god is not online. own_god
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04 Oct 2017 09:47 AM
care


¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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EmperorRyzoft is not online. EmperorRyzoft
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04 Oct 2017 09:48 AM
The ideas that I'v had for so many years has ended up making me more money than most leaders never imagined was even possible from clans.

Fruitbox was a firm believer in putting down my ideas and making me feel like an idiot. When I become more successful as him in terms of both money AND leadership I attempted to reach out to him one last time a few months ago and I was ignored.

It is clear that much that leaders such as Fruitbox were destined to fade away. I have a strong disliking to Fruitbox because of this incident. He not only ignored me but spread my gesture to him in an attempt to insult me. Instead of kicking him while he was down on the floor bleeding out after all he has said and done to me, I attempted to help him.


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EmperorRyzoft is not online. EmperorRyzoft
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04 Oct 2017 09:50 AM
@own_god

You clearly care. The fact you want to look even remotely successful when the only thing keeping you even close to any kind of relevancy is "sleeping". You are what I like to call a sheep leader. Follows the trends.


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Lasoor is not online. Lasoor
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04 Oct 2017 09:52 AM
Pretty sure SONICTHEHEDGEHOGXX has been profiting off "his" FEAR brand for a longgggg time.


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EmperorRyzoft is not online. EmperorRyzoft
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04 Oct 2017 09:55 AM
@Lasoor

Yes, Sonic is only one of a few actual successful leaders of his time. The leaders who come to mind who successfully led clans were Vaktus, Pspjohn1 and Sonic. They all profit from their clans and that is why they all survived so long while clans like sleet clan, wij and UCR fell so fast compared to these clans.


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Lasoor is not online. Lasoor
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04 Oct 2017 09:57 AM
I mean...
pspjohn profited before JC and used that to build up JC. He was a front page game maker for awhile and they weren't even related to his clan.

Same thing with Tad's Cobras. Tadcool front paged a lot of crap games and was super rich for a long time. He made multiple super clans using the money from front paging games.

Both of them died out because their games were always trash and the player's standards finally got too high.



But Sonic always had good quality games in relation to the times. Like now he produces pretty good city games.


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Hessarian is not online. Hessarian
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04 Oct 2017 09:58 AM
nobody likes gamepasses because nobody likes P2W
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EmperorRyzoft is not online. EmperorRyzoft
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04 Oct 2017 10:03 AM
@Lasoor Okay, gotta make a little context here. What I mean is, clans who profit from themselves. Tads Cobras does not profit from itself but required 3rd party sources(e.g games). Pspjohn did not make much from his games at all. Infact he made much more from ###### Cobras than anything. JC was able to profit itself from gamepasses in fang. John was a very smart leader, he asserted the idea he was the common enemy which led everyone to raid in a constant flow. Fang always had 30-40 people at it everyday for years due to this. Sonic, he profits from sunset city which has FEAR aspects init. JC fell because after the 2012 invasion, toni, fruitbox and the other GSC leaders did not believe capitalism in clans existed and JC was boycotted thus becoming non-profitable. This is why the resurrection thing came around John hoped to become the common enemy once again. VAK today is still a common enemy.
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firewood is not online. firewood
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04 Oct 2017 10:04 AM
It is evident that these conventional clans can barely get new members without ads or a popular game.


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EmperorRyzoft is not online. EmperorRyzoft
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04 Oct 2017 10:04 AM
@Lasoor

Okay, gotta make a little context here. What I mean is, clans who profit from themselves. Tads Cobras does not profit from itself but required 3rd party sources(e.g games).

Pspjohn did not make much from his games at all. Infact he made much more from JC than anything. JC was able to profit itself from gamepasses in fang. John was a very smart leader, he asserted the idea he was the common enemy which led everyone to raid in a constant flow. Fang always had 30-40 people at it everyday for years due to this.

Sonic, he profits from sunset city which has FEAR aspects init.


JC fell because after the 2012 invasion, toni, fruitbox and the other GSC leaders did not believe capitalism in clans existed and JC was boycotted thus becoming non-profitable. This is why the resurrection thing came around John hoped to become the common enemy once again. VAK today is still a common enemy.

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Tayseri is not online. Tayseri
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04 Oct 2017 10:05 AM
im sorry

too much to read

;(


Tayseri <3
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EmperorRyzoft is not online. EmperorRyzoft
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04 Oct 2017 10:06 AM
@Hessarian

There can be ways to correctly assert game-passes and to do it so that the player-base will become disrupted and annoyed. RSF is the core example of that. Jet Packs, Helicopters, Rocket Pistols... This made people not want to raid at all.


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EmperorRyzoft is not online. EmperorRyzoft
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04 Oct 2017 10:07 AM
(Current RSF is changing its image and is now selling game-passes the correct way)




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OmegaRomulus is not online. OmegaRomulus
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04 Oct 2017 10:08 AM
He's giving good advice
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NovaRomulus is not online. NovaRomulus
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04 Oct 2017 10:09 AM
Nice read
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