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Re: The amount of people that use rocks for values is SAD

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VivianTheFox is not online. VivianTheFox
Joined: 30 Jun 2011
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01 Oct 2017 07:47 AM
theye super unreliable and biased
i mean, its the only website that raises demand after 50,000 offers, but rases other items, like rares, with one or two offers
ive literally had them raise an item with one offer, and it was what i gave for it

and then they go and raise rares like interstellars 30,000 times, when it has 50,000 active owners

i know lower demand items need less offers to raise, but one or two is just preposterous
remember when one good offer on an item was considered an op, and not something worth raising an item 50k?

i mean seriously, and then they go and completely disregard some rares, but raise others 50,000 times with hardly any proof.
starry night is a great example. i traded mine for a million, when no one else would offer as high. pretty big op right? no, apparently its now worth 950k via rocks through ONE trade. THATS A 300k VALUE RAISE WHEN HARDLY ANYONE ELSE WOULD GIVE OVER 700 FOR IT

with rocks logic, i could give an est on my alt for my rex, and est has now lowered to a million value through that one trade.
i know rocks is helpful and good for estimating, but the fact that so many people use them for correct values just shows how stupidly sharked and inflated the economy is, especially for rare items. and dont get me wrong, i love rare items.

this just shows how influential rocks is to the community, and thats a bad thing. some biased changer could change an item they own with two ops up by like 200k and everyone would beleive it. the sad part is how, overtime, the owners of a raised item will leech on to these new values and people will actually give that for it

i mean, they could easily fix the system by removing biased value changers who change an item bcuz they own it, by not paying attention to offers submitted by the person who gave for an item, and by requiring more than 2 offers on rares in order to raise it 30k
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Slrka is online. Slrka
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01 Oct 2017 07:48 AM
keep crying
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VivianTheFox is not online. VivianTheFox
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01 Oct 2017 07:48 AM
@slrka
triggered
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seducings is online. seducings
Joined: 25 Mar 2013
Total Posts: 1542
01 Oct 2017 07:49 AM
rocks has been a mess since the day they've released

yes for new lmaders it might be a "good" source to get an "idea" of the items value

but otherwise the mods can just play around with the values

without an actual given reason


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appie8 is not online. appie8
Joined: 09 Jul 2016
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01 Oct 2017 07:50 AM
about starry

they raied it after i showed a BV+300k offer

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XxM8xXX is online. XxM8xXX
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01 Oct 2017 07:51 AM
Rocks is messing up some off my deal too, Sac mostly.
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VivianTheFox is not online. VivianTheFox
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01 Oct 2017 07:51 AM
@seducings
my point exactly
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VivianTheFox is not online. VivianTheFox
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01 Oct 2017 07:52 AM
@appie
again, two offers should not raise an item 300k

but apparently ops do not exist anymore

dont get me wrong, i think starry should have raised, but 950 is just insane
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shaquifaa is not online. shaquifaa
Joined: 03 Apr 2015
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01 Oct 2017 07:52 AM
I've had 4 135k+ offers for inter the last 2 days... it deserved a raise. Stop whining
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appie8 is not online. appie8
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01 Oct 2017 07:53 AM
they made starry 950k before but they lowered it to #### because it was too much but then i showed them a good offer and they made it 950k again
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lonelypast is not online. lonelypast
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01 Oct 2017 07:53 AM
its not very accurate

they value piecemaker at 430k even though theres a 475k demand offer and more

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GematriaPrimus is not online. GematriaPrimus
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01 Oct 2017 07:53 AM
Rocks isn't the truth but this is LMaD so your opinion is going to fall


#code print("Hello World!")
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shaquifaa is not online. shaquifaa
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01 Oct 2017 07:54 AM
I just read the rest of your essay, and I agree to an extent. But interstellars did deserve that raise :D
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VivianTheFox is not online. VivianTheFox
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01 Oct 2017 07:55 AM
@lon
youre just helping prove my point

i do think peice should be valued more, but one offer. OH BOY RAISE THAT 500k
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webspace is not online. webspace
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01 Oct 2017 07:55 AM
Would say it would be fair to raise EST of it was traded once for 10m
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VivianTheFox is not online. VivianTheFox
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01 Oct 2017 07:57 AM
@web

yea that would be a good reason to raise it
on the other hand, with that logic, i could give 1m for my chryso off of an alt and chryso is suddenly valued at 500k
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UstunsStorage is not online. UstunsStorage
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01 Oct 2017 07:59 AM
Seems Like Someones Triggered


R$65,354 | Rocks Value Changer
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lonelypast is not online. lonelypast
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01 Oct 2017 07:59 AM
theres tons of offers over 450+

the highest one is 475k

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VivianTheFox is not online. VivianTheFox
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01 Oct 2017 08:02 AM
@un
yes bcus pointing out how flawed and biased your system is means im triggered
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iASPD is not online. iASPD
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01 Oct 2017 08:03 AM
the value changes r mosty dumb but the thing is, ppl end up giving rocks values for items xd

is a loop


R$215,575
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Suolatikku is not online. Suolatikku
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01 Oct 2017 08:04 AM
Calling someone triggered isn't an argument. Stop it or else.


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UstunsStorage is not online. UstunsStorage
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01 Oct 2017 08:04 AM
Im Not Arguing HeHe


R$65,354 | Rocks Value Changer
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appie8 is not online. appie8
Joined: 09 Jul 2016
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01 Oct 2017 08:05 AM
i exploited this so hard with ops warrior i got 105k and 106k out of it in one day cus rocks kept raising it and made so much profit with it


they could hire me cuz i executed it almost perfectly and i know how to fix it

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Lord_Invictium is not online. Lord_Invictium
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01 Oct 2017 08:05 AM
When Ur Mad U Dont have The Good Items That Actually Raise Lul
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Lord_Invictium is not online. Lord_Invictium
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01 Oct 2017 08:06 AM
appie sit down child, none of your friends' trades were used to raise it

XD
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