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Re: Since lots of you despise rocks (owner here)

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Ara_bic is not online. Ara_bic
Joined: 30 Jul 2017
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07 Sep 2017 10:43 AM
Propose a definitively written way to improve the values system
We do not change items to our advantage, we change them from experience or proof provided

We literally have a ton of admins on a staff discord that socialize and work together on it
Its an environment that if anyone is caught to be attempting to shark theyre basically victimized by other staff members and basically kicked out

anyway, back to my question: Propose a definitive way of valur changing which will seek to expand the accuracy of the values

just saying

--Baheeg (.rocks's founder)

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ustun3672 is not online. ustun3672
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07 Sep 2017 10:45 AM
by making me rare value changer

because all of my experience are in rares and i dont even demand trade, if im not a rare changer it also means i have no use as a value changer at all.

-ustun thx
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indy5c is not online. indy5c
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07 Sep 2017 10:46 AM
so we have this MASSIVE dart board, right? then we fill this HUGE board with pictures of every got dang limited in existence! then what? we get a randomly chosen value changer to put in a blindfold and throw a dart randomly at ANY item (of course after traditionally being twirled 3 times). if the dart lands on the top half of the item's image, it gets raised ### ## it lands on the bottom half, it gets lowered 5k. huzzah! wait u want new ideas, not our current system? sry i fear 7-up .0. (kamiyama/spiffy5(c)/indy5c) - rocks executive admin!!! - Kamoses#8282
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webspace is not online. webspace
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07 Sep 2017 10:47 AM
I DESPISE YOU


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GeneralKarnip is not online. GeneralKarnip
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07 Sep 2017 10:47 AM
improve ur value system for rares is the main gripe
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Younite is online. Younite
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07 Sep 2017 10:47 AM
Skyfleet is still 170k and I don't know why it dropped from 170 to 60 in a day

People don't offer 60 for it cause that's now what it's worth
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indy5c is not online. indy5c
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07 Sep 2017 10:48 AM
so we have this MASSIVE dart board, right? then we fill this HUGE board with pictures of every got dang limited in existence!


then what?

we get a randomly chosen value changer to put in a blindfold and throw a dart randomly at ANY item (of course after traditionally being twirled 3 times). if the dart lands on the top half of the item's image, it gets raised 5k, but if it lands on the bottom half, it gets lowered 5k. huzzah!




wait u want new ideas, not our current system? sry

fixed and ruined help


i fear 7-up .0. (kamiyama/spiffy5(c)/indy5c) - rocks executive admin!!! - Kamoses#8282


i fear 7-up .0. (kamiyama/spiffy5(c)/indy5c) - rocks executive admin!!! - Kamoses#8282


i fear 7-up .0. (kamiyama/spiffy5(c)/indy5c) - rocks executive admin!!! - Kamoses#8282
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GeneralKarnip is not online. GeneralKarnip
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07 Sep 2017 10:48 AM
lol i had that inbound for two romans its not 170k LOL
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ustun3672 is not online. ustun3672
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07 Sep 2017 10:49 AM
LOL FLEET ISNT THAT MUCH
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Younite is online. Younite
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07 Sep 2017 10:50 AM
ITS DEFINITELY OVER 100 THO
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Condowel is not online. Condowel
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07 Sep 2017 10:51 AM
let me tell you why loads of people hate rocks

because items that vc'ers own are more often changed than items that vc'ers don't own, and frankly, it promotes bias and is annoying

for example, piecemaker isnt owned by any vc'er and it is LONG overdue for a raise


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Ara_bic is not online. Ara_bic
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07 Sep 2017 10:51 AM
Okay thanks for the great constructive planning guys!!

/mot
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Cypherize is not online. Cypherize
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07 Sep 2017 10:51 AM
I agree that sometimes rocks values can be outrageous, but they can't just keep on updating the values because you think it's wrong. On the other end of i think it's a wonderful site where new traders won't get sharker by this toxic place which you call a community. I say let baheeg keep on making good updates to the site and let is stay. If you don't like it live with it. They got better things to do then here you complain "LOL THERE VALUES ARE SO OFF". In the end its a good site and I hope to be part of their team
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GeneralKarnip is not online. GeneralKarnip
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07 Sep 2017 10:51 AM
prevent owners of items from changing its value
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sitar is not online. sitar
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07 Sep 2017 10:53 AM
instead of a solid price you should give bigger items more of a "price range", smaller items like cws might have a range of like 5-10k, something like messor's might have a bigger range like 20k, and way bigger items like inf probably vary like 100k

btw i dont despise rocks lmao i just think this would be nice
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Dimocitrine is not online. Dimocitrine
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07 Sep 2017 10:54 AM
keep values up to date

and value changers cant raise their own item


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Ara_bic is not online. Ara_bic
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07 Sep 2017 10:54 AM
@General

That's one of our actual models though, whether or not you believe the intention of value changers is to change values to their advantage

It's best when it's done by owners of the item because they get to experience what trades it gets, what demand it gets, what kinda value ranges it gets

Preventing owners of an item from changing it is unironically a bad idea.


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Dimocitrine is not online. Dimocitrine
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07 Sep 2017 10:55 AM
and maybe hire ppl with experience,not unknown poor ppl that doesnt trade


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webspace is not online. webspace
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07 Sep 2017 10:56 AM
read social


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sitar is not online. sitar
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07 Sep 2017 10:56 AM
like messor's size*

oh also rares would probly have a wider price range than similar size items because they are traded less often so the value doesnt really get narrowed down like something that gets traded/sold 10 times a day
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indy5c is not online. indy5c
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07 Sep 2017 10:57 AM
i agree with sitoar


i fear 7-up .0. (kamiyama/spiffy5(c)/indy5c) - rocks executive admin!!! - Kamoses#8282
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Dimocitrine is not online. Dimocitrine
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07 Sep 2017 11:02 AM
ye items need to have a certain rap n value difference

like jj cant be 90k value when the rap n value difference is 33k which is like 1/3 it's own rap


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7387 is not online. 7387
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07 Sep 2017 11:05 AM
idk if anyone else said this already but what about a way to be able to see the trades that changed an items value?


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appie8 is not online. appie8
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07 Sep 2017 11:07 AM
"like jj cant be 90k value when the rap n value difference is 33k which is like 1/3 it's own rap"

chronight is 50k i guess guys

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Dimocitrine is not online. Dimocitrine
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07 Sep 2017 11:09 AM
maybe that should only be for limiteds that get sold many times


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