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Re: harbynger's thoughts on the whole JC thing

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Harbynger is not online. Harbynger
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30 Jul 2017 04:54 AM
[im about half asleep so bear w/ me here]
>>>[ILL PUT A TL;DR AT THE END SO IF YOU DONT WANT TO READ MY WORD WALL JUST LOOK AT THAT INSTEAD.] <<<

from a pragmatic POV
why bother purging the group w/ and exile bot instead of just letting it rot from inactivity

you don't have to give it back to john and it's highly unlikely the mods are going to just take the group from you and hand it over, especially when he sold it w/ real money before.



the new group isn't going to magically turn into a superclan because the majority of the members of john's cobras are inactive and/or alts and/or bads who don't really do anything _anyway_, and all 3 only contribute to the size of the clan (in the sense of that group members counter)


new people are stupid and will gravitate towards whatever clan has bigger numbers regardless of skill or reputation or all that, so if you want people, you have a chicken and egg problem and need a big number.

so you're killing off a clan with a big number for... 'getting back at john'..?
ok..?




if you felt like you didn't want to waste the group space (and/or REALLY want to get back at john), then just sell it to some random fashion group leader for like 100K robux so it can be like Veloxic Empire LOL, then you get the necessary funds for Atlas or w/e, and you'd ruin john's cobra###### don't really grasp the entire scope of this whole fight so i don't know if in that situation if i would do that or not.





as for ###### doxxing thing
why are you doxxing over a bunch of virtual lego bricks tbh?
i mean you sold the clan a while back for honestly a bargain to steff, you could have easily tripled the price and sold it, esp. w/ the random rich kids (and/or kids who actually swipe their parents CCs), and from a logical point of view, steff was NOT the right answer for some guy who should lead the clan when atomic was available (mostly because atomic was more popular)
the clan was dead anyway and it's only real use at this point was to try and get a bigger member base and ignore the history

tbh the only value I see john wanting the clan back is because his name is on it, and if that was really a big deal, then you should have just Vaktus'd the clan then lol

besides, honestly what does doxxing actually (tangibly) get you anyway? I really mean that for anyone who doxxes, really what's the point, esp. when they're really far away from you
i mean at best you can get an embarrassing picture but that's **really** stretching it, and if you're after their bank accts. and CC/SSN a######ff like that, that's just wrong dude



if you think that selling the clan in the first place was a mistake, well idk what to say other than should have thought of that
it's why i hoard old clans whenever I get my hands on them
i don't to#####h####i just let them rot
and then when i feel like it i get rid of them for free most of the time



pragmatism



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tl;dr:
what's the point in purging the group if the reason you're purging it is to get back at john but also want to make a big clan..?
shouldn't you like
just sell john######ras to some random big fashion group for like 400K robux so you can fund your new group???

purging it really does you no good, and there's no way in hell john######ras has 60K active members willing to get up and join a new group, esp. since most superclans are overwhelmingly made up of bads and alts and kids and all.

doxxing is stupid
why are you doxxing people over online legos
regardless of the situation
what do you honestly get out of it


pragmatism


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Harbynger is not online. Harbynger
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30 Jul 2017 02:27 PM
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Neochori is not online. Neochori
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30 Jul 2017 02:32 PM
I personally really enjoyed reading your opinion. There's no doubt that the entire doxxing situation was way out of line. For myself it's very sad to see a clan such JC being torn apart within a two day period when the history and success of the clan is one that always sticks with people and is truly remembered.


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The13thHippie is not online. The13thHippie
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30 Jul 2017 02:38 PM
He's not purging it to get back at John, though that's certainly a side benefit. He's doing it because JC's had its run. It'll never be anything more than JOHN'S Cobras, no matter who owns it, and its glory days are long done and over with.

Instead of letting someone else own it and just drag it through the mud, he's exiling everyone and letting it stand as a memorial.


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Aerofall is online. Aerofall
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30 Jul 2017 02:40 PM
Atlas is also aiming to innovate not just be another JC.


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TheVarosCow is not online. TheVarosCow
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30 Jul 2017 02:45 PM
@harbynger we are mass exiling because psp wants the group for the numbers and other stuff and cause of the doxxing the haxors wont stop until they get JC to psp and this is for "if" psp gets JC he wont have the numbers to get dem kiddies that he wants to play with!


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HateHouse is online. HateHouse
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30 Jul 2017 02:46 PM
Exile botting it the best way, don't let it go active again, just end it.
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Harbynger is not online. Harbynger
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30 Jul 2017 02:53 PM
still, doesn't atomic need robux for atlas???

i'm sure if you get some random kid to go buy the clan, give a rank exile permissions, then just go and run a ton of exile bots AFTER selling the clan...


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The13thHippie is not online. The13thHippie
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30 Jul 2017 02:55 PM
Atomic got 50k in group funds from JC, so he's content with that. It's also good that he isn't selling it, as he'd be like John himself.


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Harbynger is not online. Harbynger
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30 Jul 2017 02:56 PM
50K isn't a whole ton of cash
hell I spent around 50K on tenebrosity development and you all saw how that turned out


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TheVarosCow is not online. TheVarosCow
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30 Jul 2017 02:57 PM
We have arround 60k+ robux ready for atlas and @hatehouse I have tried all the exile bots I know we have been getting spam blocked for 2 days already by roblox nobody can run a bot and I know this because I have personally tried every bot and I was the first one that started with the bots.(OG cleaning lady!)


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Harbynger is not online. Harbynger
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30 Jul 2017 03:00 PM
at the very least should have run a PM bot before exiling everyone to try and squeeze as many old JC members out as possible, esp. when they're inactive as all hell




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Victorious00X2 is not online. Victorious00X2
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30 Jul 2017 03:04 PM
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PumpedDogg is not online. PumpedDogg
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30 Jul 2017 03:05 PM
listen harb i like you but why do you insist on only posting walls of text to the clans and guilds subforum


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TheVarosCow is not online. TheVarosCow
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30 Jul 2017 03:05 PM
We re going to pm all veterans after the purge is done harb.


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assassin_lord is not online. assassin_lord
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30 Jul 2017 03:06 PM
its actually around a bit over 60k, but anyways just want to be clear - we were turning it into a memorial and weren't going to exile but decided to exile BECAUSE john was doxxing us/etc and we wanted to destroy any monetary value the group has.

atlas has high tier tech being made and we're making a fp game that will be tied directly to our lore and uses our tech. we're confident we will become a superclan.
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AtomicRXN is not online. AtomicRXN
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30 Jul 2017 04:09 PM
"50K isn't a whole ton of cash
hell I spent around 50K on tenebrosity development and you all saw how that turned out"

have to go to work but quickly posting

im not you and im not making tenebrosity, and i didnt need to spend 50k to put together an amazing dev team for atlas. and i can 100% say the amount of work weve completed is more than any dev team in the current clan world can say theyve completed and we are still far from completion.

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Harbynger is not online. Harbynger
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31 Jul 2017 01:40 AM
mm


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Chairman_Platinum is not online. Chairman_Platinum
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31 Jul 2017 02:06 AM
"and i can 100% say the amount of work weve completed is more than any dev team in the current clan world can say theyve completed and we are still far from completion."

V O I D, RAT, A-SOV and FEAR would seem to contradict your statement




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