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Re: The Problem with Clans

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IKTL is not online. IKTL
Joined: 18 Feb 2016
Total Posts: 37
18 Jul 2017 07:17 PM
Hey there, Clan leaders. We have an issue. No, this isn't another thread about the SCR-SF war. No, I'm not complaining about VAK or VOID. No, I'm not rambling on about how the clan world is doomed without presenting any valid ideas on how to fix it. Well, that last part isn't entirely true. From a certain point of view, I AM rambling on about the clan world, however I know exactly what's wrong and exactly how to fix it. (and yes, before you ask, this is indeed an alt, and no, I have no intention of revealing the name of my main. Know only that I've been around long enough to know what I'm talking about.)

As many of you know, the clan world is not doing so great. It seems like there is an abundance of toxicity, all the while fewer and fewer new people are joining clans. A lot of clans are really having a hard time getting new players. It's all the same old people in clans now, with barely anyone new rising to prominence. This is caused by people's reluctance to welcome new players into their groups.

Let me tell you this: if you want the clan world to last more than another year or two, you NEED to get things together. This goes out to every clan. You saw what Roblox did to personal servers once they thought they were no longer relevant. You see what they're doing to OT and RT, and all the other forums that they don't think contribute enough. Clans are next. If the admins keep following their new trend, and if the clan world doesn't start making themselves relevant again, the clans feature is going to be altered in a way that will kill us off. No, they obviously aren't going to remove groups, but don't you think for a second that they would hesitate before making more and more updates that prevent war clans from carrying on like normal. (Server update, anyone?)

So how can you fix it?

If action is taken now, as in as soon as possible, we can reverse this. What we need to do is make clans relevant again. We need to show the mods that clans still have a considerably large player base, and that keeping war clans going would benefit Roblox.

First off, we need to start bringing new people into the genre. We can't keep up this trend of the same old people hopping from clan to clan, starting new ones when previous ones fail. We need to fill our clans with newcomers. Don't be afraid of being "unskilled", or of having noobs in your group. Get as many new players as possible and train them and make them start to like clans as much as you do.

How can you do this? I don't know, VIP recruit, recruit from front page games, run those little square ads that appear on the front page, make a recruitment center (remember when those were a thing?) and advertise that, set up programs and academies to help new players. Do anything and everything you can to draw more people in.

Another thing we need to do to fix clans is make them relevant again. Face it, to the mods we an irrelevant and antiquated community of older teenagers and young adults who refuse to quit this website because we want to keep playing around with an outdated feature that hasn't been seen as important to Roblox for years. If you're waiting for the mods to give you a chance, to host some clan based event for you to prove yourself, don't bother. They aren't going to save us, we need to save ourselves.

The only way to truly make the clan world relevant again is by creating an event so massive it forces the mods to acknowledge that we are still a vital part of Roblox. There needs to be another ro-war. Not like the SCR vs. SF ro-war. Not even like the ro-war that happened a couple of months ago that failed due to incompetence. We need to create the largest ro-war that Roblox has ever seen.

Any and all clans who value c7g should take part in it. It needs to be massive. It also needs to be fair and well worked out. If it fails, it will only prove that we aren't worth bothering with.

Who will organize this ro-war? I don't know, I leave that up to you, dear readers. If any of you value clans, I ask that you at least try to create this event. I think you will find plenty of clans willing to participate, should you only take the first steps towards setting it up.

I'm sorry that I can't do more to help personally, but there really isn't anything I could do anyway. This, the recruiting newcomers thing as well as the ro-war, needs to be something all clans work together to do. One person/clan can't do it themselves. I made this forum to bring this to your attention, to hopefully start the spark that will fix clans, but it's up to you to carry through with it.

Will you?
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generalfolley is online. generalfolley
Joined: 05 Jan 2010
Total Posts: 6415
18 Jul 2017 07:18 PM
Why post this on alt
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Ran502 is not online. Ran502
Joined: 29 Jan 2012
Total Posts: 1720
18 Jul 2017 07:19 PM
the only problem with clans is that they arent dead yet rofl


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Oltzolt is online. Oltzolt
Joined: 11 Jun 2011
Total Posts: 248
18 Jul 2017 07:20 PM
Well, because when people join clan groups, they instantly feel like they shouldn't be there. The HR'S and people who have been in the clans for awhile, feel like they are the new ones. So they LITERALLY act like they are trash, and don't feel the need to rank them up.
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IKTL is not online. IKTL
Joined: 18 Feb 2016
Total Posts: 37
18 Jul 2017 07:21 PM
"Why post this on alt"

Because I'd rather have people read this and judge it by the content of the post itself rather than by the person who wrote it. I'd also hoped it would help convince people that this isn't just a grab for attention/power.
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Veratus is not online. Veratus
Joined: 30 Jul 2013
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18 Jul 2017 07:21 PM
People say the want new people into clans, but hate on clans like edeltia for having a younger member base when they are the future of clans.


lol
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IKTL is not online. IKTL
Joined: 18 Feb 2016
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18 Jul 2017 07:32 PM
"Well, because when people join clan groups, they instantly feel like they shouldn't be there. The HR'S and people who have been in the clans for awhile, feel like they are the new ones. So they LITERALLY act like they are trash, and don't feel the need to rank them up."

Indeed, this goes along with my part about recruiting new people. You also need to train them as well, and don't scare them away from the genre by bombarding them with insults and demands to get better. Think of the big picture.


"People say the want new people into clans, but hate on clans like edeltia for having a younger member base when they are the future of clans."

I don't know much about Edeltia, other than that they're going to war with VAK, but if they are bringing more people into the clan world than they can't be all that bad.
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IKTL is not online. IKTL
Joined: 18 Feb 2016
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18 Jul 2017 07:48 PM
bump1
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ywisis is not online. ywisis
Joined: 07 Dec 2014
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18 Jul 2017 07:49 PM
Editia is the future, whether you like it ir not.

More clans should follow their examples.
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Contriox is not online. Contriox
Joined: 09 Feb 2014
Total Posts: 1970
18 Jul 2017 08:02 PM
hopefully more clans learn from Edeltia, I think they've done the most in bringing in new people into clans recently.
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bobo1728 is not online. bobo1728
Joined: 06 Jul 2011
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18 Jul 2017 08:04 PM
Yep


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kroxon is online. kroxon
Joined: 24 Mar 2012
Total Posts: 6600
18 Jul 2017 08:07 PM
i was thinking of uploading my personal clan theory and my ideology behind creating edeltia to hopefully help others on their journey

it would also include many tips on how to create an environment that will allow for noobs to thrive in

I just need to find time to draft something like that.
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IKTL is not online. IKTL
Joined: 18 Feb 2016
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18 Jul 2017 09:20 PM
@kroxon

You might get some negative feedback, but I'd highly recommend doing that. If people actually listened to you we might have a chance at fixing the community. Hopefully more clans will follow Edeltia's example so the clan world doesn't wind up dying out.
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TechnoZentuz is not online. TechnoZentuz
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18 Jul 2017 09:23 PM
Bump! I totally agree!


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theonlyconner is not online. theonlyconner
Joined: 04 Aug 2012
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18 Jul 2017 09:24 PM
I'll probably make a Rp clan in the future
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OrionsPath is not online. OrionsPath
Joined: 02 Apr 2012
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18 Jul 2017 09:24 PM
The only problem is sword clans

Gun clans are happily growing

Sword clans are dying
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nightberzerk is online. nightberzerk
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18 Jul 2017 09:29 PM
tldr
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IKTL is not online. IKTL
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19 Jul 2017 01:00 AM
bump2
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iFloyTaylor is not online. iFloyTaylor
Joined: 09 May 2011
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19 Jul 2017 01:35 AM
Hey there, Clan leaders. We have an issue. No, this isn't another thread about the SCR-SF war. No, I'm not complaining about VAK or VOID. No, I'm not rambling on about how the clan world is doomed without presenting any valid ideas on how to fix it. Well, that last part isn't entirely true. From a certain point of view, I AM rambling on about the clan world, however I know exactly what's wrong and exactly how to fix it. (and yes, before you ask, this is indeed an alt, and no, I have no intention of revealing the name of my main. Know only that I've been around long enough to know what I'm talking about.)

As many of you know, the clan world is not doing so great. It seems like there is an abundance of toxicity, all the while fewer and fewer new people are joining clans. A lot of clans are really having a hard time getting new players. It's all the same old people in clans now, with barely anyone new rising to prominence. This is caused by people's reluctance to welcome new players into their groups.

Let me tell you this: if you want the clan world to last more than another year or two, you NEED to get things together. This goes out to every clan. You saw what Roblox did to personal servers once they thought they were no longer relevant. You see what they're doing to OT and RT, and all the other forums that they don't think contribute enough. Clans are next. If the admins keep following their new trend, and if the clan world doesn't start making themselves relevant again, the clans feature is going to be altered in a way that will kill us off. No, they obviously aren't going to remove groups, but don't you think for a second that they would hesitate before making more and more updates that prevent war clans from carrying on like normal. (Server update, anyone?)

So how can you fix it?

If action is taken now, as in as soon as possible, we can reverse this. What we need to do is make clans relevant again. We need to show the mods that clans still have a considerably large player base, and that keeping war clans going would benefit Roblox.

First off, we need to start bringing new people into the genre. We can't keep up this trend of the same old people hopping from clan to clan, starting new ones when previous ones fail. We need to fill our clans with newcomers. Don't be afraid of being "unskilled", or of having noobs in your group. Get as many new players as possible and train them and make them start to like clans as much as you do.

How can you do this? I don't know, VIP recruit, recruit from front page games, run those little square ads that appear on the front page, make a recruitment center (remember when those were a thing?) and advertise that, set up programs and academies to help new players. Do anything and everything you can to draw more people in.

Another thing we need to do to fix clans is make them relevant again. Face it, to the mods we an irrelevant and antiquated community of older teenagers and young adults who refuse to quit this website because we want to keep playing around with an outdated feature that hasn't been seen as important to Roblox for years. If you're waiting for the mods to give you a chance, to host some clan based event for you to prove yourself, don't bother. They aren't going to save us, we need to save ourselves.

The only way to truly make the clan world relevant again is by creating an event so massive it forces the mods to acknowledge that we are still a vital part of Roblox. There needs to be another ro-war. Not like the SCR vs. SF ro-war. Not even like the ro-war that happened a couple of months ago that failed due to incompetence. We need to create the largest ro-war that Roblox has ever seen.

Any and all clans who value c7g should take part in it. It needs to be massive. It also needs to be fair and well worked out. If it fails, it will only prove that we aren't worth bothering with.

Who will organize this ro-war? I don't know, I leave that up to you, dear readers. If any of you value clans, I ask that you at least try to create this event. I think you will find plenty of clans willing to participate, should you only take the first steps towards setting it up.

I'm sorry that I can't do more to help personally, but there really isn't anything I could do anyway. This, the recruiting newcomers thing as well as the ro-war, needs to be something all clans work together to do. One person/clan can't do it themselves. I made this forum to bring this to your attention, to hopefully start the spark that will fix clans, but it's up to you to carry through with it.

Will you?


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