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Re: Why you don't need to level to beat the elite four in diamond

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TomboyDelta is not online. TomboyDelta
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07 Mar 2010 12:34 PM
And before you ask, here's your answer: BECAUSE I WAS BORED, OK? And I did it on Yahoo answers, so y'know, may as well.
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The elite four are relatively simple and easy to beat with the right tactics (Yet Cynthia's another matter!). You honestly don't need to level to extremes, you could take 'em down with a level 30 starly if done rightly! Let me tell you how:

First, you need to asses your situation. Have you battled every single trainer on mainland Sinnoh? Don't worry if you want more battles after the Elite four, since you'll have access to the survival area, resort area, etc. which should provide you with even more fun challenges - plus you'll have the national dex to complete, which is a feat in itself. If you HAVE battled every single trainer, then spend all your money. Then, make sure you have sufficient pokemon o each type. Let me explain my perspective:

Think back to when you battled Candice, Roark, or the others. Did you take a pokemon in that was strong for that type? And could that pokemon take down higher levels - solely because it was stronger? The elite four are just four gym leaders in a row for types you haven't experienced yet - namely bug, ground, fire and psychic, in that order.

Your first one is Aaron, bug-type master. Take in lots of awakenings and antidotes, since his pokemon (especially the goddarn Dustox) have some pretty mean status problem causing moves. You can nail him pretty easily with a flying, fire or rock type. For this, throw in a rapidash, staraptor, or bastidoon; they're all pretty well-matched. Once Aaron's down, it's time to move in for ground.

Having a torterra for my first playthrough, I nearly fainted when I saw Bertha. Mainly out of releif, because I took in a pokemon to back each other up (Meaning for every weekness one of my pokemon had, I took another to cover for it) so I already had a Lumineon. For ground, use water, grass or ice - but watch out, because your raichu or luxio isn't gonna do anything here. Electric-type moves have no effect, making the ground pokemon nearly immune to paralysis through thunderbolt or whatever. Abasnow, gyarados, roserade, or the one-hit-kill AMAZING magikarp can take down Bertha easily. No need for high levels here - but watch out, since ground pokemon have huge HP and defense stats.

Flint and fire up next. And aren't the puns on the names getting boring yet? Fantina (Close to French for phantom), Flint (what you need to start a campfire), Gardenia (Garden, plants, grass) - We can see where the 'inspiration' comes from! But for now, lets focus on flint. Super easy if you have water, you can literally douse him. Otherwise, take in a ground type such as Golem or rock type like sudowoodo. If you have the TM Earthquake from wayward cave, use it on one of your ground pokemon now, since it's super-powerful for anything that doesn't fly.

Lucian is the last oif the elite four, and he's psychic. He throws a tough Mr Mime at you straight off the bat. You should have no problem however, if you've brought in a bug-type, ghost-type (You can get a literally free level 36 haunter from a girl in snowpoint city; just catch a medicham easily outside the city, then find a blonde called Mindy and ask her to trade.) or dark-type. Gengar would be particularly awesome here; level up a ghastly found early in the game at th haunted mansion in eterna forest, then trade with a good friend and trade back to get the epic that is gengar.

And after you defeat the final four? Well, you have the toughest multi-type trainer in the game to beat; Cynthia. Her pokemon are Spiritomb (ghost/dark), Garchomp (dragon/ground), Gastrodon (water/ground), Milotic (water), Roserade (grass/poison), and Lucario (fighting/steel). Nothing you can't handle given the right pokemon, overall. Remember the STAB and the best moves in the game (Earthquake for ground, Fly or flying, dragon rage or dragon, etc.) and you'll beat her in no time.

You'll need revives, however, as a last resort. Don't pay for them either, just get them for free in the underground. I would also recommend switching to items that boost moves for your pokemon, and forget any soothe bells, exp. shares and whatnot for the time being.


But, if you really, depserately need to level, it's simple and fast.
Find a high-level wild pokemon. If the deseried leveler is at the front of your party, immediately switch it out for a pokemon sufiicient to beat the wild pokemon. Leveller will get half of battle experience. This is classic method used to level magikarps and evolve them in gyarados at level 21.
Unless, you have the experience share. You can give this to a pokemon and it will gain the same amount of experience from the battle as the winner did. You can level up 2 pokemon at once using this. In my opinion, anything lower than AT LEAST a level 40 will struggle. But like I said, it's down to tactics and TMs, for you to take out the first elite four using that level 30 starly.

As a last hint, all elixers and asthers should be saved until this moment. You'll need them, since you'll be using so many same-type moves over and over again. Don't make the mistake of breeding or taking in same-type; as a bad example, my little brother took in 4 water-type pokemon as part of his team in Pearl. He failed dismally, since he'd used all of his PP enhancing itesm - and PP - by the time Flint came around, which was the only thing his team was good for anyways. Before you go in, take the time to plant Leppa berries, since they give a +10 PP bonus when used.

It's not in the levelling, it's in the tactics and type-knowlege. Pokemon would be such a linear concept otherwise. Just remember this, and you'll fly through them onto the best part of the game, which includes swarms and battling and lucas/dawn's little sister, suprisingly, if you want to catch rarer pokemon.
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goldbouncer is not online. goldbouncer
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07 Mar 2010 12:37 PM
I stopped reading when i gt to the
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Xadrin is not online. Xadrin
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07 Mar 2010 12:38 PM
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Uhh...
Look at the second paragraph, the "First" one..
Fifth word...
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TomboyDelta is not online. TomboyDelta
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07 Mar 2010 12:52 PM
@Xadrin,
There's nothing wrong with it. .-.
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MrRetextureGuy is not online. MrRetextureGuy
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07 Mar 2010 12:54 PM
You mean "Acsess" not.... Err.... .-.
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TomboyDelta is not online. TomboyDelta
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07 Mar 2010 12:59 PM
As.ses = Analyse.
Acess is a different word.
As-ess. Not As.s's. Pronounce it right. '>.>
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Xadrin is not online. Xadrin
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07 Mar 2010 01:04 PM
That's assess.
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LightMatt64 is not online. LightMatt64
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07 Mar 2010 01:08 PM
you need lots of max revives and 6 winuts that all know baton pass to win easiest way
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timmy94 is not online. timmy94
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07 Mar 2010 01:09 PM
This is when my lvl 96 Blaziken's awesome moveset comes into play.
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MrRetextureGuy is not online. MrRetextureGuy
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07 Mar 2010 01:09 PM
Sorry. Made a mistake. But you could have simply said I used a wrong word, instead of giving me the definition of every single word remotely close to that,
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TomboyDelta is not online. TomboyDelta
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07 Mar 2010 04:04 PM
Sorry MRG, I guess.
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TomboyDelta is not online. TomboyDelta
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07 Mar 2010 04:43 PM
@Light,
But lower HP pokemon only need normal revives, and you can use moomoo milk or lemonade (the most cost-effective healers in DP) to get their HP back up. However, if your pokemon has HUGE HP (High-level torterra as an example, nearing 300 at elite four) then yes, you'll need a max revive since it's better.
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07 Mar 2010 04:46 PM
tl;dr
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