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Re: define scamming, sharking and bias in your own words

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TheEpicValueChanger is not online. TheEpicValueChanger
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13 Jul 2017 05:27 PM
my definitions

sharking: convincing someone to accept a bad trade deal through any means possible, i.e. faking past completed offers, or telling the person receiving the bad end of the deal that you'll give more than their giving. sharking is easily avoidable if you have a good knowledge of values

bias: claiming your item is worth more than it really is (whether you truly believe it is or not). can usually be backed up by real trades that have been sent out/completed

scamming: taking/stealing someone's money/possessions through a lot of convincing, usually by trying to 'borrow' their item, telling them you're legitimate, or promising a prize if you send your best items for a small (i2g's).




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SnowyKirby is online. SnowyKirby
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13 Jul 2017 05:30 PM
Scam: offering a deal that both agreed on and not going through after the other person already did

Shark: using whatever tactic necessary to convince someone that your offer is better, even if it may involve scamming

Bias: overvaluing
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TheEpicValueChanger is not online. TheEpicValueChanger
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13 Jul 2017 05:30 PM
and pls do use your own words, and don't post a short google definition and claim sharking and scamming both = that spot on


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aucts is online. aucts
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13 Jul 2017 05:31 PM
Termination
Idiots who don't know values
You
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epicdude9738 is not online. epicdude9738
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13 Jul 2017 05:32 PM
Sharking is scamming
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TheEpicValueChanger is not online. TheEpicValueChanger
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13 Jul 2017 05:32 PM
@snowy
never seen sharking involve scamming someone
can u give an example


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SnowyKirby is online. SnowyKirby
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13 Jul 2017 05:33 PM
If someone lets someone borrow an item and they run off with the item, they technically did not get scammed they just had their item stolen
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moowning is not online. moowning
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13 Jul 2017 05:33 PM
sharking is not scamming lol


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F_F is online. F_F
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13 Jul 2017 05:33 PM
Sharking: Convincing your trading partner to that what you are giving him is a good (better) deal, but in reality he's losing.



Scamming: Not following through-out the deal, mid exit the deal or refusing to give all the items that were promised during the deal.


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TE0C is not online. TE0C
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13 Jul 2017 05:33 PM
sharking - purposely/knowingly telling someone inaccurate information regarding an items value or future potential in attempt to get a win or a good deal

bias - overvaluing an item

scamming - any type of malicious act of taking somebody's limiteds. this is not sharking since they have not given consent for you to receive the items in most cases.


https://www.roblox.com/Trade/TradeWindow.aspx?TradePartnerID=35085279
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epicdude9738 is not online. epicdude9738
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13 Jul 2017 05:34 PM
Sharking:

Tricking someone

Scamming:

Tricking someone
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TheEpicValueChanger is not online. TheEpicValueChanger
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13 Jul 2017 05:34 PM
@snowy
than what's the difference between stealing and scamming (on roblox)


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SnowyKirby is online. SnowyKirby
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13 Jul 2017 05:34 PM
@epicvalue according to my definition of scamming, the 2 idiots that said they would give 170k for voidwrath were scamming in order to shark
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SnowyKirby is online. SnowyKirby
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13 Jul 2017 05:35 PM
The difference is what I said about lending items and (for example) double trading
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TheEpicValueChanger is not online. TheEpicValueChanger
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13 Jul 2017 05:35 PM
what's YOUR definition of scamming then


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SnowyKirby is online. SnowyKirby
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13 Jul 2017 05:37 PM
@teoc

In most scams, the victim gives the scammer consent to have his item , and vice versa
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SnowyKirby is online. SnowyKirby
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13 Jul 2017 05:37 PM
@value read my first post
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sharpblaze2 is not online. sharpblaze2
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13 Jul 2017 05:38 PM
macs: not going through with an agreed deal
sharking: lying about the value of an item
bias: truly believing your item is better than what it really is
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TheEpicValueChanger is not online. TheEpicValueChanger
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13 Jul 2017 05:40 PM
someone borrowing your item and running off with it is scamming according to your definition then
you gave consent to letting them use your item a bit, and in return... they'd return the item. however, they didn't return the item.


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TallAwesomeGuy98 is not online. TallAwesomeGuy98
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13 Jul 2017 05:41 PM
lol
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SnowyKirby is online. SnowyKirby
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13 Jul 2017 05:43 PM
@value no
The lender gets absolutely nothing in return
It is a favor, not a transaction
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TheEpicValueChanger is not online. TheEpicValueChanger
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13 Jul 2017 05:43 PM
also @some of the bias defintions
ik my chronold is only worth 350-375 at best, yet i wouldn't take 400k-415k on it
not overvaluing my item at all, as that's what it's been offered
does that make me not bias?


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TheEpicValueChanger is not online. TheEpicValueChanger
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13 Jul 2017 05:45 PM
might as well add on to my bias definition, because i didn't do a good job at defining bias:
can also mean wanting more than what your item is worth


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eurostepping is not online. eurostepping
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13 Jul 2017 05:45 PM
it's a method of sharking really, i didn't "run off with any items" but my own he still has his items, i took nothing from him, and good_drank didnt do anything but fake an offer like me that doesn't fall under the category of scamming i define scamming by: a perverse act as to where ################ ################## ##### for the trickery of another, resulting in lost items/objects i.e. ROBLOX items -cough-, money -eurostepping/Julian | https://www.roblox.com/Trade/TradeWindow.aspx?TradePartnerID=21591662
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SnowyKirby is online. SnowyKirby
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13 Jul 2017 05:46 PM
Sharking can sometimes be scamming according to the circumstances
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