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| 05 Jul 2017 03:17 PM |
| Going into war against SF even though they are Gun clans is pretty admirable. Even though they are losing pretty bad i have to give them credit for being 2 major known gun clans to war # ## clan in which todays stigma views swords as trash and toxic. This proves that gun clans are not that good at swords as they think they are, and also proves that swords and guns are entirely different skill sets which anyone can master given time. I am hoping to see clans like VAK, RAA, VOID, WIJ will give warring a sword clan a shot. |
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| 05 Jul 2017 03:20 PM |
| I vaguely remember UAF warring BWE back in 2013, a good example. and ISOLAYTOR before VOIDs era happened warred TCI but it was mostly on TCI's gun base |
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dudeshark
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| 05 Jul 2017 03:33 PM |
"proves gun clans aren't as good as swords as they think"
It's literally TRA and RSF, if you're going to judge skill, choose better groups. |
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HailMario
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| 05 Jul 2017 03:35 PM |
Ah Yes Reach And Lagging With Archaic Weapons Take Very Big Skillz.
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| 05 Jul 2017 03:37 PM |
yeah shark it's not like they declared
anyways i respect them though
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| 05 Jul 2017 03:46 PM |
great post, i agree
anyone can do swords but you aren't going to beat a sword clan thats been in the game since day 1 imo |
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dudeshark
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| 05 Jul 2017 03:46 PM |
| Crushed, not sure how that's relevant? |
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| 05 Jul 2017 03:47 PM |
How is it not relevant?
You can't judge it. TRA is actually pretty good actually anyways.
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| 05 Jul 2017 03:48 PM |
shark it's relevant because they declared??
you're the one saying to pick better groups when they declared
we've picked better groups in the past and they've gotten destroyed |
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VeIourian
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| 05 Jul 2017 03:48 PM |
What you see here, is the opposite to the generic "Swords should change to guns."
Normally, the sword clan is forced to make their fort so it has both a gun and a sword at least, which is going against their melee combat ways. However, this is good to say that guns clans are willing to change and expose themselves to a new "situation" as such.
It's easy enough to say "swords are easy" but like, to me guns are hard and swords are easy, and for some others it's the other way round. This community needs to be more supportive of each other and not be like "oh it's only TRA and RSF so no wonder they're losing blah blah blah"
Respect +1
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| 05 Jul 2017 03:51 PM |
| whats good seraphicsaint :D |
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Frostarkz
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| 05 Jul 2017 03:53 PM |
This is how I view it:
SF did all the negotiations, RSF and TRA did not turn up to the negotiation table.
> SF decided all the edits for both outposts. > They made them convert weapons to swords > Even added a obby for them at Arvore. > Even changed the animations to OA which they specialize in.
Where is RSF/TRA's part in this?
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| 05 Jul 2017 03:54 PM |
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you literally warred a gun clan into a sword fight,
try gunfighting them and say the same thing |
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Hacted
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| 05 Jul 2017 03:57 PM |
We volunteered to make our base swords and OA.
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dudeshark
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| 05 Jul 2017 03:59 PM |
Them declaring war isn't relevant at all when considering their skill level? Is English not your first language or does your mom have your helmet on your head too tight so the oxygen isn't getting it?
Not once did I say to pick better groups, I'm saying you're judging gun clans against TRA and RSF. Which are mediocre at best, excluding TRAE (if they're even still good).
That'd be like VAK warring some mid level sword clan, forcing them to use guns and then saying all sword clans aren't as good at guns as they think. |
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Frostarkz
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| 05 Jul 2017 03:59 PM |
Eh, well.
At least this is a war which you guys finish unlike many this year and last year without claiming autowin
nice to see that |
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| 05 Jul 2017 04:03 PM |
A lot of gun clans are trying to get into the sword community, however, going after the top dog was a bad thing to do, in my opinion, especially when they didn't exactly represent themselves rather well and gave into all their demands immediately.
Certain leaders like myself (for ever brought up the TCI-VOID war), are willing to make adjustments and changes based on weaponry style, even though my preference is swords. I did the same with HAU-RAT war, although HAU got absolutely demolished, tried to the same with VE and VAK as well (VE put up a better fight against VAK than HAU did with RAT).
Several leaders are WILLING to give it a shot, just got to find the right one's.
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ywisis
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| 05 Jul 2017 04:10 PM |
> SF decided all the edits for both outposts.
False, TRA and RSF have requested one change to Lexus, Lexus itself is a VERY fair base and hence only required one change.
We have also provided them with a new "fort" called Domination in which is completely number based.
Sure we have requested some changes to RSF's base such as removing the tunnels that lead straight to the gate, the reason for this change was because it did not make any sense to have it in a sword based war, the conflict should be direct and before the gate, not after it.
> They made them convert weapons to swords
False, they warred with swords, they were already ready to use swords.
> Even added a obby for them at Arvore.
Don't know which update you're talking about.
> Even changed the animations to OA which they specialize in.
Old animation is much better in my opinion because the animation is stale, you're able to see where you're hitting the person and not where the person is going to be. |
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| 05 Jul 2017 04:14 PM |
i like swords but summed up:
a gun clan can raid a sword clan and has a good chance at winning a sword clan can raid a gun clan and have little to no chance at winning |
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| 05 Jul 2017 04:17 PM |
A. Dude hate to break this to you but sword clanners aren't running around C & G saying that they can gun fight top tier gun fighters just as good as any one B. TRA and RSF declaring war is relevant, they are the ones that chose to do this war with swords C. TRA and RSF asked for changes to be made to SF's base, and those changes were made D. TRA and RSF wanted a sword war, no one forced them to use swords E. I though "swords took no skill", cause if they didn't TRA and RSF should be destroying SF regardless of their skill level. |
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