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Poidachi
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:25 PM |
| Zyrap Just because Shooting Star sold for 500K Doesn't mean it's 500K. It's still ### ## Astra was LPPed It doesn't mean it's 1 robux. RAP is easy to manipulate. That's why people don't rely on it as much as value. |
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7286
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:25 PM |
Items on ROBLOX drop because of "low demand" simply due to mob mentality, and the fear that you won't get as many trades on an item
Little do you clowns know though that rares almost always get more trades than demanded items
If I have both decent rares and some demand, guess which ones get more trades?
That's right, my rares
Demand is a form of fear-mongering on this game |
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:26 PM |
demand and rare trading is basically the same, except one is faster than the other
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Zyrap
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:27 PM |
@72 I understand where you are coming from, but if people don't want it, it puts owners desperate making them take less, lowering the item.
And this is not a governmental currency, and has more factors on play |
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Poidachi
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:28 PM |
| Demand has always been a mutual agreement rather than actual demand. It changes with: -Similar Retextures -Price Inflation -Hyping/Market Manipulation ##### ############### stock) Just to name a few. More or less, it's just an agreement, not an actual tangible thing. That's why investments are risks. |
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:28 PM |
| you going to use a buyers market for trading? Trading is a difference concept your not seeing the picture just as the other guy said sales can be manipulated I do resales in real life I work w/ video games a lot especially the old not made ones I will normally trade them @value however I usually sell them less money has a bigger want irl then the games so it's harder to get asmuch # it's hard to get a real 'value' of money and on items that sell every day there value doesn't change on sales it changes on condition and more factors sales only mean what you paid originally for it not what you'll get afterwards ~LMaDs Judge and jury~ |
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appie8
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:29 PM |
when i owned JJ+Valk+Icedagger for a brief period of time, i got more offers on icedagger than jj and valk combined in all 3 days
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:30 PM |
lol nobody takes rap seriously any more
it worked years ago but now people know how easily the system can be fixed (lpping, projecting)
value has been abstracting further and further away from rap and it can only get further from here
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Zyrap
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:31 PM |
| @72 completely agreeable. I'm a rare fan, back in December I profited 700k purely by rares, and fast. Demand got me more impatient than rares, but demand is also important even in rares. If you truly know rares, you'd know there are good ones and bad ones. This is of course done because of the demand. |
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:33 PM |
I agree there too demand is just a word people trade more for rares due to fear mentality you want an item that trades fast or slow?
However funny thing is rares trade usually just as much but for mmore especially since rares are less 'wanted' so less people know there worth that's why demand also sucks in my opinion cause demand is so sought after that the value is easily shown and the chance f OPs are more but for less
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Zyrap
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:35 PM |
Yes rap can be manipulated trailz but so can value. I was purely hated by .rocks value changers because of my doing of raising all rares I owned. I made a rise in DA. On Starry Night. On mm(although it crashed), and contributed to crescendo hype, so I first hand know iys not complicated to manipulate values. |
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:35 PM |
@zyrap you're half right therre demand is a key factor in the value however that means nothing est is so rare at one point that the value was so high no1 had a real value on it til merly traded one of the 4 no mater what the demand was it was still at that point cause if it's rarity
however demand is a key factor in smaller rares
for ex: in 2014 NYC had very lil demand was 45k at the time month or 2 later I increased that demand to the point NYC raised all the way up 2 240k
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:35 PM |
Yes I've owned everything from Chronight to Bobbie to AA and beyond, I know there are "good" rares and bad rares
If you're patient though items can still get well over their value from someone who wants it
People are just impatient
Monsters Visor is probably one of the crappiest items on this game, right? I had it for two weeks. I used to be really impatient, and was considering lowballing it. But guess what? I ended up getting 17K out of it, when it was about 10K max. No sharking, nothing. Random inbound trade
You just have to wait |
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:37 PM |
everyone says helm set is trash but i got some nice wins out of them. you just need to find someone who wants them
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Zyrap
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:39 PM |
Rarity and demand go hand at hand. Ying and yang. You sort of just proved my point on value as well.
@72 I've owned every rare under 500k but nyc, and yeah it just takes patience, idrk what your argument was on their though. |
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:39 PM |
rares are more flexible then demand and always will be the rarer something is the easier the price can flex this is both goodd and bad and it's cause it's very limited suply however the only thing that raises demand is the value of the dollar or in this case robux the more robux in circulation the higher demand items go cause there supply is so high they thrive on sales or demand traders to increase the market of them
for example
5m people play roblox only 5k players have over 100k do you think CF will be more then 50k? No not w/ that many sales because they don't control the main market the main market of 'demand' is controlled by the 99% sort of speak
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appie8
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:40 PM |
also a 6th reason XD
lmad is diverting from the community
valk is > cf everywhere except lmad for instance
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:41 PM |
@appie funny part is they have lil say in the matter xd we're the 1% w/ ODer items like those we can't really say much
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Zyrap
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:42 PM |
Ok.. you just agreed with me on importance of robux I am now completely lost on your stance |
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appie8
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:42 PM |
yeah but a lot of ppl nowadays exclusively trade with other lmaders, locking themselves up away the rest of the community
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:44 PM |
lol. values are easy to flex if you're the only person on the entire website trading that item
some people give 33k demand ops just because they want to be the only one actively trading them
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| 01 Jul 2017 01:47 PM |
My stance on robux stands however what I'm saying is robux as a whole shows affordability if the 99% couldn barely afford CF @25k why now has it reached 50k? It's cause robux has inflated to the point the 99% is now 'richer' robux or items they're limit has risen therefore items of demand will rise w/ it sales won't affect it but demand does if the demand market has gotten richer then so will the value of the items they target
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