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Re: ROBLOX and it's many "problems"

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Jamezx714 is not online. Jamezx714
Joined: 14 Nov 2009
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22 Jan 2011 09:55 PM
Thank you for listening to the rant channel, which is somewhat liked but never listened to...

Welcome to ROBLOX, we are a kid safe place full of ODers, spammers, and innapropriate material! We are positively stuffed with originality and the front page will always show you originality and creativity...not.

Table of Contents!
A: Intro
B: Links to ideas, points, and my comments to them
C: MY points, concerns, and solutions
- 1: You are pressuring us to buy BC
- 2: Lag
- 3: Fix TC
- 4: The mod-bots
- 5: Judgment
- 6: Concern for older users is lacking
- 7: Contest fail
- 8: Free model invasion

ROBLOX is falling apart. If you don't know that, I feel bad for you. Take a look at the front page of games, that isn't an "oh-no" that is a VERY bad thing! I almost never go there anymore, because it is by far too depressing. In the link below, fghik gives nice instructions and tips on how to improve ROBLOX. Read the whole forum, it's got good stuff in it. I don't want any posts saying TL;DR, as that will prove you are no better than the majority of ROBLOX players.
B: The 20s:
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=34895696

Now, if ROBLOX were to do half the things on that list, they'd probably find people on ROBLOX were a lot happier and you were getting less quits and flames every day!

Let’s Rethink the WHOLE thing:
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=32009145

You will find that this guy is a little blunter than the previous, but he too points out a great many things wrong here. I really suggest reading his post all the way, as following the instructions within can lead to a better ROBLOX.
C: Now, I will address a few issues, with my own comments to them

1: The admins are pressuring us into buying builders club
They are are! If you deny it, you are very much oblivious! They recycle the same ideas for gear and hats, and don’t even bother to make it very high-quality, all they do all day is spam off gear and hats so they can slap a high price on it! I get it, “ROBLOX needs BC buyers to keep going BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH” Yes, but they are taking the wrong approach! Maybe if they were to release more tix hats, and re-balanced trade currency, fewer people would say “This game sucks” and more people would stick around and buy builders club. The ROBLOX admins current approach causes short-term members to buy BC once and quit, my system would get people to stay longer AND buy BC multiple times while they stay.

2: Lag
As is stated by fghik, it is NOT all in your computer. ROBLOX’s OGRE system is terrible and 8 versions out of date, it's physics are lagging (And they need some MAJOR improvements),and a number IDK out of date, and even if I can play huge internet multi-player games with no lag, ROBLOX still lags like crazy! Fix it.

3: Fix Trade Currency
You know what really makes me laugh? People are always shooting down suggestions like “Let us trade items” because they are “Abuse able” and yet the current trade currency rates are even more abuse able than item trades! I can trade 100 R$, get 1700 tix, and then trade it back for around 115 R$ or so. Easy money, about 15 a day if you are patient. I’d like a fixed rate, like the good old 1:2 or 1:4. If that’s too much for ya, try 1:10! If, for some stupid reason, they encrypted the TC rates to the point that ythay cannot change them, I'd at least like them to start making some GOOD tix hats. That will encourage people to buy tix more, and then maybe re-balance the TC rates!

4: Mod-Bots
Ya, we know. You replaced the human moderators with bots. I understand that mods cost a lot and can’t monitor everywhere, but on the forums, people can hardly make anything because the mod bots are attacking their posts, and the people who really do do bad stuff get away with it

5: The Mod/Admin judgment is terrible
What I would really like to know is why many incredible works of ROBLOXian art are [Content Deleted] when games like “Torture Chamber” and “Island Resort” (aka ODing grounds) are never even touched. Why is it that people with good sense and great scripting abilities like Meelo are banned, when freaking ODers like SONICTHEHEDGEHOGXX aren’t!!!! I can’t claim to know all the facts, but if I’m not mistaken, out little ODing friend was banned for making an Oder place, and he was unbanned FOR HAVING OBC!?!?!?!? Are you saying as long as I pay $19 I’m allowed to break even the most important rules and get away with it!?!?!?

6: The staff are not concerned with your older, more intelligent users
Sadly, it is true. They spam off 20 1,000 R$ hats and 2 5000 R$ gear before they even think of giving us an update! And when you do give us an update, it’s something very few people want! Take the new HUDs for example. I didn’t want them, tons of other people hate them, only a bunch of immature 10ers who've never seen how much better the older system was like them. (And a few other users, but I won't trash them, as they know what they're doing) I get it, some people like them, so make it so we can toggle it on and off! I would really like that.

7: Contests fail
Yes, I know already. The devs worked really hard on them. BUT THEY SUCK! Ever seen the winners pages lately? All the same, copied, free-modeled game. The contest is over the moment the first vote is cast. And I certainly don’t like being penalized for choosing “The wrong Place” The “right one” is just a free model-filled crappile made by someone with lots of alts! Solution: Go back to the old way, we all liked that kind better, sure we’ll have some problems, but I liked it simpler. If that proves impossible, how about IP tracking, so alts won't work?

8: Free models have taken over
Yes, this point is taken straight out of the 20s, as is its solution, which is as follows: Make a free-model cap. Say, only 50% of the place can come from free models. How is that? Not only will it help reduce free-model spam places, but it will also encourage people to learn how to build and script without free models, and our scripter/builder quality levels will rise! Think where ROBLOX can go once nearly every member can script and build well!

I hope this has been a wake-up call for those who read this, whoever you are. Now please, pass this on to the rest of your ROBLOX buddies.

This concludes my utterly pointless rant, of which the ROBLOX staff will most likely never bother to look at. Meanwhile, I'll just whitle away my time scripting and hoping ROBLOX's staff will wake up and see they're ruined game in time to save it...
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Paramore2 is not online. Paramore2
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22 Jan 2011 10:03 PM
I respect that you wrote this much, it pleases me, what pleases me even more is that I agree with everything. :)
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CrunchityMunchity is not online. CrunchityMunchity
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22 Jan 2011 10:05 PM
Good job on copying deathguardian92's thread.

1. Of course they pressureus into buying BC. It costs millions of dollars a year to run ROBLOX. And I'm pretty sure you're not a market advertiser.

2. According to Telamon, they like focusing on updates rather than updating OGRE, you wouldn't currently notice any difference if they updated OGRE.

3. They like to pressure players to buy BC. More money for ROBLOX is always better.

4. How can they use Mod bots? If they were bots, they would delete a thread instantly rather than waiting for a report. And if they were bots, then why are they paying for actual Moderators?

5. Games that attract ODers shouldn't get deleted unless they violate an actual rule. Instead of reporting the games, try reporting the players. Meelo was banned because he violated many rules when he started the "rights for NBCers rants". You have no proof that SONICTHEHEDGEHOGXX is an ODer. And ROBLOX does not use OBC as an excuse not to ban - my friend, starmarine614, is a perfect example.

6. ROBLOX must adapt to the new users to survive. There are much more new players than old ones.

7. They are currently working on a new contest system.

8. Who cares if people use free models? It's a matter of opinion.
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Cheddarmamma is not online. Cheddarmamma
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22 Jan 2011 10:10 PM
Roblox is falling apart
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kusername1 is not online. kusername1
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22 Jan 2011 10:12 PM
@ 1:

True, they honestly don't need the money anyway. 14 million users. If 1 out of every 100 bought one month of BC, that's 840k in a month.

@ 5:

Meelo's ban was unfortunate, but back then S&I was a mess. Every thread was about NBC rights, and they decided to ban somebody they thought was the heart of it. Unfortunately, he wasn't. He was a big advocate for NBC (I know because I was on the other side about the topic. :D), awsome6400 or something was the main guy. Oh well.

@ 6:

Can't users be rich and intelligent? LMaD is dying out however, mainly because we want our trading system. They're going to have problems selling those expensive hats soon.

@ 7:

I stopped paying attention to them after a week. :)

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StinkyForumer is not online. StinkyForumer
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
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22 Jan 2011 10:24 PM
@Above

840K won't run a website that needs just about 300 peole to run and design and use up time and have to pay for housing and food and family.

Divide 840K by 300. Not enough for them to survive on.
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Zontafer is not online. Zontafer
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22 Jan 2011 10:27 PM
Stinky - A slight change in numbers, such as 275 will drastically effect the numbers.

They probably only have about 200, AT MOST.
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Zontafer is not online. Zontafer
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22 Jan 2011 10:28 PM
4,200 is the paycheck of a month. multiply it by 12. 50,400. A very great salary.

AT 200.
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CrunchityMunchity is not online. CrunchityMunchity
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22 Jan 2011 10:31 PM
If I remember correctly, ROBLOX has about 50 paid employees.
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Zontafer is not online. Zontafer
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22 Jan 2011 10:36 PM
That's 16,800. Subtract a good 2,000 from each paycheck.

14,800.
Their annual salary is one of the best paid, if not THE best.

177,600. Estimated. A good chunk of that goes into ROBLOX site.

So...around 170k each employee.
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CrunchityMunchity is not online. CrunchityMunchity
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22 Jan 2011 10:40 PM
177,600? ROFL. You forgot to subract the millions of dollars it costs to run ROBLOX.
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Edd1050105022 is not online. Edd1050105022
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22 Jan 2011 10:46 PM
This is so true.
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Tehnoobpwner1010 is not online. Tehnoobpwner1010
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22 Jan 2011 10:58 PM
AGREED, PASS THIS ROBLOX
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ClassicMobster is not online. ClassicMobster
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22 Jan 2011 11:00 PM
... Fail. Lag is only caused because of a Slow computer. And also, the rest of these fail.
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Jamezx714 is not online. Jamezx714
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22 Jan 2011 11:06 PM
I have a 64-bit HP Invent laptop with high speen internet, explain that.
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CrunchityMunchity is not online. CrunchityMunchity
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22 Jan 2011 11:11 PM
"I have a 64-bit HP Invent laptop with high speen internet, explain that. "
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Just because you have 4 bars doesn't mean you have high speed internet.
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Jamezx714 is not online. Jamezx714
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22 Jan 2011 11:11 PM
speed*
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Jamezx714 is not online. Jamezx714
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22 Jan 2011 11:12 PM
Who said I had 4 bars? I have 5 bars. :3
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gamesam is not online. gamesam
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22 Jan 2011 11:38 PM
mod bots didn't know what is bad what is good so banned us for no reason!
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gamesam is not online. gamesam
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22 Jan 2011 11:38 PM
@classic someone has a bad computer,everyone will laggy,roblox server is stupid!
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ClassicMobster is not online. ClassicMobster
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22 Jan 2011 11:43 PM
ROBLOX doesn't have Mod - Bots... Look at the site info. Not here, at ROBLOX H.Q website.
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StinkyForumer is not online. StinkyForumer
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23 Jan 2011 10:25 PM
@Classic

Lie


@Zont

Heh? You think so? Nope. I guess your not 24. 170K a month is some avearge Money. As I quote nao "You forgot to add the millions it takes to run ROBLOX".
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StinkyForumer is not online. StinkyForumer
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23 Jan 2011 10:27 PM
Oh, And Zont, That slight change in numbers is WRONG. You have to get people to apply the computers and things and buy them all which costs a bit MORE than a real person. Add that to your geeky eqution(Excuse my spelling)
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ForeverTaIl is not online. ForeverTaIl
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13 Jun 2017 01:58 AM
yeah it does
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dariatodorova is not online. dariatodorova
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13 Jun 2017 06:26 AM
Noice!

Support! ;3;

♡Daria♡
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