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Re: Reasons why VAK succeeds, and will always succeed.

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Merrlock is not online. Merrlock
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13 Jun 2017 12:25 AM
1. They built themselves on endurance and persistence, rather than hype.

Whatever the situation may be, Vaktovia will always persist beyond all other clans. Their soldiers are disciplined enough to the point to continue fighting fiercely for long amounts of time, consequently resulting in greater endurance than most of their opponents.

2. They are centered around loyalty more than skill.

90% of the soldiers in Vaktovia are submitted and endlessly loyal to the Empire as a whole. Nothing can shatter that loyalty. This is partly due to the opportunity and joy that Vaktovia could bring them in the future, seeing as VAK has always been known to be the "most elite clan" out there.

3. Their leader is generally a humble, suitable and likable leader.

Vaktus isn't a tyrant, even though he has positioned his character to seem so. He is someone whom doesn't take the game too seriously yet takes it seriously enough to produce good results with his army. Outside of clans, he has been said to be a nice guy, and has a disease called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) - which means he is always extremely tired, no matter how much sleep he gets. Having this disease can make his men feel sorry for him, and thus more motivated to fight for him.

4. They have a really healthy command structure.

Vaktovia's Officers and Generals are top-notch. They are active, persistent, loyal, skilled, and are great leaders - even the Vaktovian Officers whom haven't been the best Officers still possess these qualities rightly-so. These Officers are fully active for Vaktovia during almost every day of the week, doing the tasks they are required to do for the Empire. This inevitably results in a healthy chain of command.

5. Overall, they primarily shaped the clan world as it is, and thus remain as its fathering figure.

Vaktovia got in early with the right ideas. They went for skill as opposed to numbers, and dominated the clan world as it was then. This resulted in them having the greatest influence, and so future clans began to follow their structure and pattern. Clans became jealous that they aren't Vaktovia, and thus became more depressed as a whole. Even when clans like VOID and CSP tried to shake Vaktovia and its image, they still failed - due to lack of endurance and persistence.

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These are all reasons I concluded with after being in Vaktovia on and off over almost a year, and researching it extensively on forums, YouTube, etc.

All in all, Vaktovia was and still is something special, and is an occurrence that ROBLOX will never forget. They are the outliers of ROBLOX, the great ones. When challenged by other clans, they always come out on top, regardless of war score or general opinion (mostly from C&G), and this has yet to be truly disproven.

Thank you if you took the time to read my forum post!

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Adm1nMe is not online. Adm1nMe
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13 Jun 2017 12:29 AM
Interesting analysis, hats off.


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Zalyo is not online. Zalyo
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13 Jun 2017 12:29 AM
You're about to get memed

Be careful
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Veralytic is not online. Veralytic
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13 Jun 2017 12:29 AM
Very interesting analysis.


She say, "You're the worst; you're the worst" I cannot die because this my universe.
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EncryptedStrike is online. EncryptedStrike
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13 Jun 2017 12:33 AM
Agreed


Glory to Vaktovia.
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MatthewShallare is not online. MatthewShallare
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13 Jun 2017 12:54 AM
Nice writing mate.


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D_eep is not online. D_eep
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13 Jun 2017 01:10 AM
I bet this guy just told his VAC friends to write 'nicee' lmao.


-DEEP https://www.roblox.com/library/341169718/Deep
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TheStalinator is not online. TheStalinator
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13 Jun 2017 01:13 AM
Very interesting analysis.
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Noveum is not online. Noveum
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13 Jun 2017 01:15 AM
Interesting analysis
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ForeignTRE is not online. ForeignTRE
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13 Jun 2017 01:17 AM
Even when clans like VOID and CSP tried to shake Vaktovia and its image, they still failed - due to lack of endurance and persistence.

VAK surrendered/inactivated the base, you can't compare VOID to CSP when VOID rightfully defeated VAK.
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Velostonic is not online. Velostonic
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13 Jun 2017 01:19 AM
Much analysis, more interesting.


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Zalyo is not online. Zalyo
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13 Jun 2017 01:24 AM
Haze, get off the forums and build my axe
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UltimateNoobKiller82 is not online. UltimateNoobKiller82
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13 Jun 2017 01:24 AM
6. Secretly cheat in wars as long as you get away with it
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nightberzerk is online. nightberzerk
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13 Jun 2017 01:47 AM
sound like vaktus needs a Red Bull
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8Resolution is online. 8Resolution
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13 Jun 2017 01:54 AM
I will attempt to argue as many points here that I can - I'll note if I can't or if I had trouble finding what I should argue about, because you should know if you made a fair point from my POV.

1. >They build themselves on persistence, rather than hype.
There's a problem with all internet guilds like these - Real life comes first. Hyperclans die due to lack of interest - Powerclans die due to the chain of command being forced into 9-5 workweeks and organizing life when not working. I'll cover something more about the command structure later, but in general, you seem to not realize that VAK can die at any time due to a string of unfortunate coincedences. That being said, it will definitely not die quick, like CSP, Horde and Clockwork.

2. >They are centered on loyalty rather than skill.
The main issue is that there are a few that are there just so they can be proud of themselves of being in such a "powerful" clan. While a loss may pull those selfish chads out, the chance of them being good in this day and age is very high. There are very few war clan genre recruits nowadays, most going to the SW and the GoT genres if going to any clans at all, so indotrinating like VAK did in the past will be extremely difficult if a large amount of active users leave, say, because VAK was no longer considered undefeated.

3. >Their leader is generally humble and suitable.
I have no possible complaints except for an opinion. I totally agree that Vaktus is one of, if not the ONLY, good clan leader left in the entirety of the war clan community, ranging ALL genres. That being said, I STILL can't offer complete loyalty to someone I don't know the face of and if I recall is in an entire different country than I am. However, that's just opinion, and his skill as a clan leader and how respectful he is to others puts him on top.

4. >They have a really healthy command structure.
I've heard my complaints about corruption in the past, but never for any of the things that other clans do, especially in the SW genre, so I have a hard time saying that this could be a proper argument to your opinions, but... I can point above. Any command structure, from the United States's (Trump is REALLY putting the pressure on it) to a WOW guild's to of course, a roblox war clan's, has a habit of being rather fragile. Coincidences may arrive, an attempt at destroying on the inside may happen by some tryhards that have no outside interaction, officers may have to leave for real life reasons or otherwise. VAK's is no different - a few pieces in the right place at the wrong time can set VAK's shutdown into motion.

5. >Overall, they shaped the clan world as it is.
I don't agree that this idea of a clan world is what VAK shaped it to be - or at least, what it should have shaped it to be. Instead of learning the lessons of what Vaktus did to create his clan as it WAS, they tried to copy what VAK currently IS, which ended up creating the cancerous Hyperclans. These, I believe, set the sparks into motions that leaves the clan community like it is now, because they know that all they need for popularity and attention to their creations is hype, instead of months, maybe even years, of hard effort to create something truly unique and made of heart and sweat.
>And thus remain as it's fathering figure.
I shouldn't have to explain how a child learns to leave their parents over time. VAK will eventually be outgunned by a powerclan that can actually meet to it's terms, one that studied how VAK came to be, instead of how VAK works now. It's just a matter of when, and what state the community will be in when VAK finally loses it's grip.

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Vaktovia is definitely unique to Roblox in how it actually studied how guilds work in other game regions like the game that Vortex Security came from, EVE Online, and World of Warcraft, but outside of it it would be high up, but nothing compared to something like Planetside's military groups and ironically enough some of the cash whale guilds of Clash of Clans. It won't last forever, but like you've said, it's special compared to other clans because VAK itself puts quite an effort to learn on it's mistakes and grow as a community. It'll be a matter of time before it falls from grace, but until then, VAK is an old and wise, but still rather flimsy, tree in a sea of mud and worse.

WHEW. Thank you for reading this post. I put too much time into it because I have too much time myself. This is likely really bad opinions since I haven't been in the war clan genre for about two years now, but this post ground my gears and I had a thinker or two about it.
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Devactivus is not online. Devactivus
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13 Jun 2017 01:55 AM
lol with the slow disintegration of the clan world, vaktovia will be forgotten


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ProphetSparrow is not online. ProphetSparrow
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13 Jun 2017 02:00 AM
nice analysis but void did best vak, so did el and tgi
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The_Sponginator is not online. The_Sponginator
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13 Jun 2017 02:13 AM
VAK best TGI even the leader admitted it LOL
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The_Sponginator is not online. The_Sponginator
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13 Jun 2017 02:14 AM
beat*
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