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Re: Why does it matter if VAK was demoralized

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AtomicRXN is not online. AtomicRXN
Joined: 08 Jul 2013
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08 Jun 2017 12:11 PM
you cant use that for a solid argument of concluding the war. thats why its an endurance war and not a raid win war, its expected that the clans fighting in this war are gonna go through an extremely rough patch. you dont call it off because the other side is going through a rough patch.

vak endured through their rough patch and started working on a comeback. is that false?
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Mohxy is not online. Mohxy
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08 Jun 2017 12:11 PM
that's not the reason why it was concluded
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Treeecow is not online. Treeecow
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08 Jun 2017 12:12 PM
actually vak endured through their rough patch by hiring CSP members to join them, and then CSP began working on a comeback
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ActualOps is not online. ActualOps
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08 Jun 2017 12:13 PM
Very true. In the final days before CSP surrendered, VAK was not demoralized in the slightest.


𝓕𝓲𝓷𝓮𝓼𝓼𝓮𝓭
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AtomicRXN is not online. AtomicRXN
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08 Jun 2017 12:14 PM
you made it a big point in your statement of pointing out how demoralized vak was and providing all kinds of these screen shots showing vak members wanting the war to end.

and as much as i see mercing is wrong, i dont see anything against mercing in your official war terms. is that wrong? that was fair grounds for them to play.
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D_arrk is not online. D_arrk
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08 Jun 2017 12:15 PM
>Says that vak wasn't demoralized> will probably get exiled if he says they were >is in VAK > vak payed for CSPs members > CSP beat CSP
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Mohxy is not online. Mohxy
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08 Jun 2017 12:17 PM
There's also no term about aimbotting / exploiting, does that mean it's legal?

We had no interest in fighting *actual* mercenaries. There are a lot of members in VAK that have served their group for years. Instead of those members being rewarded, people that have no loyalty to VAK were being rewarded. Out of desperation, they lost all integrity. If you actually look at the doc and believe it is a surrender then VAK can be proud they won a war through mercenaries.

I really don't care who the winner is, I accepted the endurance war for fun and it was fun, that's all that matters in the end
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AtomicRXN is not online. AtomicRXN
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08 Jun 2017 12:27 PM
aimbotting/exploiting has a different gravity than hiring mercs.

this is from the war terms:
>"Admins must report on the CSP v VAK Leadership Discord whenever using admin at Varcia and explain who the rule-breaker was, what they did and what the punishment was.

Admins must NOT use admin on lagswitchers until after reporting it on the CSP v VAK Leadership Discord and giving the opposing clan 5 minutes to address the lagswitcher on their team.

Admins must use not use ban commands unless the same offender has returned from being kicked and warned twice."

emphasis on the first regulation for varcia admin usage.
>"Admins must report on the CSP v VAK Leadership Discord whenever using admin at Varcia and explain who the rule-breaker was, what they did and what the punishment was."

>"explain who the rule-breaker was.."
>"the rule-breaker..."

this implies you had basic rules for varcia, id assume no aimbotting and no exploiting are quite obvious rules.
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laneswitch is not online. laneswitch
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08 Jun 2017 12:39 PM
SO you ended the war because you were mad VAK members that had been in the clan for years werent being rewarded? interesting


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hawk2eye is not online. hawk2eye
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08 Jun 2017 12:41 PM
lewis you talk about anger yet rq csp for vak on the basis that you were triggered over what sofa called you

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micronexum is online. micronexum
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08 Jun 2017 12:43 PM
but still, its valid reason, they will have problems from here on out

CSP EXPOSED HICOM


god i hate this forum
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TheSolePrinciple is not online. TheSolePrinciple
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08 Jun 2017 12:44 PM
So now you care about the "integrity" and values of VAK?

What are you, a social justice warrior now, Mohxy?

You take more twists and turns than the amount of clans you've led.

And stop using the idea that VAK hired mercenaries to fight you, they joined on their own, you didn't supply any solid evidence of that.

On the other hand, I can name over 100 people in CSP that are known tryhards mercs to the gun fighting community, including your command, Mohxy.
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VarciaXII is not online. VarciaXII
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08 Jun 2017 12:45 PM
Hawk #### ## rage quited you because she turned les. Now shut up.
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MydrekTheDidact is not online. MydrekTheDidact
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08 Jun 2017 12:45 PM
Is this coming from a Cobra?

*Moves to next Thread*
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hawk2eye is not online. hawk2eye
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08 Jun 2017 12:47 PM
jesse i can never tell if you're trolling or mad or what

you're so misinformed, she's still my friend today o-o

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PatriotPatriot is not online. PatriotPatriot
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08 Jun 2017 12:47 PM
"And stop using the idea that VAK hired mercenaries to fight you, they joined on their own, you didn't supply any solid evidence of that."

This is why you're an idiot
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EncryptedStrike is online. EncryptedStrike
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08 Jun 2017 12:47 PM
General Nitro made a speech, and I think everyone had a lot of morale after that.


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strongyos is not online. strongyos
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08 Jun 2017 12:48 PM
but they didnt endure their members accepted defeat even in public??? HRs elites normals gave up even vaktus in a vid

why do u need a "i surrender thread"?
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TheSolePrinciple is not online. TheSolePrinciple
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08 Jun 2017 12:49 PM
Patriot, sit down already. You haven't contributed anything intelligent as an argument to any of these threads yet.

I'm going to ignore you from now on.
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strongyos is not online. strongyos
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08 Jun 2017 12:51 PM
@atomic also by what u are saying, then TGI won the war since VAK broke the war terms bc they were losing. so i'll wait for an answer
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ExaltedSovereign is not online. ExaltedSovereign
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08 Jun 2017 12:53 PM
VAK was not demoralized at all. The amount of activity this war has brought as well as the strength of the member's hard work during trainings & wars, I don't see any reason to call them demoralized.


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PatriotPatriot is not online. PatriotPatriot
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08 Jun 2017 12:54 PM
"Patriot, sit down already. You haven't contributed anything intelligent as an argument to any of these threads yet." Ignore me because you're an idiot and quite literally everything you've said today is baseless and false. Pick yourself up off the ground and read Mohxy's document. You'll find ample evidence that mercenaries were hired. I know, I know, you're a VAK fan boy who has his head up ### #### and truly has no desire to see the truth in anything, but it is for your own benefit.
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AtomicRXN is not online. AtomicRXN
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08 Jun 2017 12:56 PM
mydrek two faced lying cheater just about as bad as jamber

@strongyos- i didnt tune in for the vak-tgi war so im not fit to make a judgement.
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adpunk4445 is not online. adpunk4445
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08 Jun 2017 12:59 PM
i mean
isnt everyone demoralised

just realising you play roblox is so depressing at times
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AtomicRXN is not online. AtomicRXN
Joined: 08 Jul 2013
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08 Jun 2017 01:02 PM
fact is, vak during their hardest time didn't surrender. if jc was trailing behind in war score that badly and my clan was falling into shambles, i would probably have surrendered because its an unproductive war not worth pursuing for my clan.

youre acting like it was easy for vak NOT to surrender. if the fact that csp members leaving and fighting for vak was enough for mohxy to drop the war, what makes you think if the tables were turned and CSP was EXTREMELY behind in war score losing to VAK, that mohxy wouldn't surrender then too?

youre not giving credit where it's due. it must have been EXTREMELY difficult not to surrender, ESPECIALLY considering VAK's history and pretty much every bit of it being on the line.
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