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| 04 Jun 2017 05:57 PM |
| I'm saying that there is a reason why people can be scared of islam |
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| 04 Jun 2017 05:57 PM |
many of you are spoiled whites who dont realize your langauge,math, and biology are from the same people you demonize #### ---
language? lol math? indians biology? yea they were pretty good at that during the golden age of islam, too bad that collapsed because of their religion
the west, middle east, and east have basically equal contribution to today's knowledge so talking about that is a joke lmao |
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| 04 Jun 2017 05:58 PM |
My point was that certain groups in history have made certain contributions to humanity. The Arabs have made major contributions just as Western Europeans have made major contributions. Your point is made irrelevant by the fact that certain people accomplish certain things; who cares what religion or race they are in this context?
Now, if you want to debate the scope of these accomplishments, we may, but otherwise you have made a meaningless observation.
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| 04 Jun 2017 05:59 PM |
| brightless, and there are reasons people are afraid of goats and spiders, I just disagree with the irrationality of such fear. You are more likely to be killed by a white extremism than muslim in Europe LOL |
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| 04 Jun 2017 05:59 PM |
"And white westerners are responsible for rights, democracy, equality of men and women, recognition of [happy] rights, and the abolishment of divine rights of kings, leading to untold prosperity and wealth."
they're also responsible for mass genocides (native americans) and the murder of thousands of innocent people in the middle east while trying to "instate democracy"
it goes both ways |
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isseman6
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:00 PM |
| ####### I pointed out their contributions because of people demonizing, I never said western/eastern didn't do anything. So have comprehension before attempting to debate me |
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:01 PM |
Ah yes the same who caused 2 world wars,killed far more civilians than muslims, treat minorities as second class citizens ---
same can be said about arabic muslims treating jews like dirt and wanting to drive israel into the sea
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:01 PM |
Yes, Islam opposes all of those things, and many muslims also oppose these things. That is because Islam is an ideology; white westerners is a demographic. All Muslims believe in Allah is a necessary fact, all white westerners are spoiled is not.
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isseman6
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:02 PM |
Prove how islam opposes those things.
People say the same thing about christianity |
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:03 PM |
many of you are spoiled whites who dont realize your langauge,math, and biology are from the same people you demonize #### ---
"your ___ is from the same people" your implying that it was solely from them
learn your "langauge" |
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:04 PM |
mr atheist it doesn't look like u know much about religion. u just keep spitting out "facts" |
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:05 PM |
You have implied we owe these things to the Muslims and are being ungrateful, but people are demonizing the radical Muslims because they are committing atrocities, and I would argue that is the peaceful Muslims who did the most for humanity. You are making a generalization without any substance. @isseman6
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:05 PM |
"from" doesn't mean "only from"
Learn how to read! |
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:07 PM |
bro it's okay man it's all good to be wrong sometimes virg |
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:08 PM |
hey guys every religion has their bad people
lets just all be nice to each other
SALAM. |
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:08 PM |
same can be said about arabic muslims treating jews like dirt and wanting to drive israel into the sea
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have you seen what's happened in Palestine yet
if you attacked me we'd both treat each other like dirt we'd both want to drive each other into a toilet
it's humanity not religion humanity
humanity makes the choices not religion humanity |
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:09 PM |
| it implies it if you don't specify otherwise and such an implication is atrocious if youre going to pair it with the likes of credit for language, math, and biology |
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:11 PM |
| Mass,I can tell you have no argument when you are making straw mans and assumptions about the wording of my point lol |
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:11 PM |
| really shows how religion can ruin a people |
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:12 PM |
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:12 PM |
uh
have you seen what's happened in Palestine yet
if you attacked me we'd both treat each other like dirt we'd both want to drive each other into a toilet
it's humanity not religion humanity
humanity makes the choices not religion humanity ---
israel has won three wars against arab coalitions against it and yet palestine still exists and rocket bombs them to show their respect for not being annexed completely
it's not just palestine that hates israel, see: 1948 arab-israeli war, 6 day war, yom kippur war |
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:14 PM |
Mass,I can tell you have no argument when you are making straw mans and assumptions about the wording of my point lol ---
your argument is based off false notions that language, math, and biology owes a debt to the islamic golden age, something that ended because of islamic religious beliefs
religion is bad for language, math, and biology
all you needed to say was that not all muslims are bad people and most arent (which are both true) but instead you bring up something 600 years in the past, good job |
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:16 PM |
1) Islam directly condemnds [happy] people.
Quran (7:80-84) - "...For ye practice your lusts############reference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.... And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone)"
Modern examples of this are Iran, a theocratic government based on Islam, hanging [happy] people, as well as several other Muslim theocracies.
2) Islam does not treat men and women equally.
Quran (2:2#######C#u######timony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women."
Quran (4:34) - "Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them."
Modern examples of this are in Saudi Arabia, in which a woman is not permitted to leave the house without permission from a male, are required by law to wear veils, and are not permitted to drive.
3) Islam is opposed to democracy.
Quran (33:36) - "It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision."
Quran (63:8) - "...might (power) belongs to Allah and to His messenger and to the believers;"
Modern examples include the numerous theocratic governments established under the political ideology of Islam.
These are the top examples of Islam opposed to modern western ideas you enjoy.
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| 04 Jun 2017 06:22 PM |
loling at the fact that all of your examples are poorly mistranslated versions, pls go and actually find the actual translations
inshallah |
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