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Re: why do clan leaders care about what anyone else thinks

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Lapis_Z is online. Lapis_Z
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01 Jun 2017 05:14 PM
except for their own members

if you ban a raider and the raiding team calls AA but your own clan agrees with your decision why should u give a damn about what the raiding team may or may not think? they can be salty while everyone in your group is in agreement, and it wont affect you, so u just continue like normal


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theNBK is not online. theNBK
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01 Jun 2017 05:15 PM
that sounds like the same exact mentality as VAK and look how many people despise them
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Lapis_Z is online. Lapis_Z
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01 Jun 2017 05:16 PM
EXACTLY LOL

everyone hates VAK but they're the most active clan as of right now. it doesnt matter what they do because they'll still be successful. thats my opinion anyway.


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theNBK is not online. theNBK
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01 Jun 2017 05:17 PM
my opinion as that a mentality like that is ignorance, and ignorance in this sense leads to arrogance
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Hazfu is online. Hazfu
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01 Jun 2017 05:18 PM
Outsider's opinions of your clan is mostly irrelevant as most of it is biased. Clans against them tend to flame them, with true or false information. Their members follow like mindless monkeys.

In other words:

Clan A hates clan B

Everyone in clan A will hate clan B, creating bias


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Eoofe is not online. Eoofe
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01 Jun 2017 05:19 PM
respect the opinion of your members, your allies, and those with sound logic/morals.


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RisingParadox is not online. RisingParadox
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01 Jun 2017 05:21 PM
It's pointless and stupid to ban people unless they are causing a very impactful annoyance, in which few people actually do that.
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Eoofe is not online. Eoofe
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01 Jun 2017 05:22 PM
tbh I've kicked people just for being insanely annoying or "toxic"

my fort my rules (to an extent)


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Lapis_Z is online. Lapis_Z
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01 Jun 2017 05:22 PM
exactly seviro.

it doesnt matter what these people think because i can just ban them from my hypothetical clan's places and if my own members agreed with my decision they can remain salty while we move on just fine.


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Eoofe is not online. Eoofe
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01 Jun 2017 05:25 PM
i'm expecting people to come on here like "THAT'S UNFAIR AND ABUSIVE!!!"

but then you also realize that the "golden age" of clans was >FILLED< with groups that were abusive like this and did not care for the popular/outsider opinion whatsoever, and now every clan cherishes their reputation on this subforum.

look at us now.


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Shinedown204 is online. Shinedown204
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01 Jun 2017 05:25 PM
"if you ban a raider and the raiding team calls AA but your own clan agrees with your decision why should u give a damn about what the raiding team may or may not think? they can be salty while everyone in your group is in agreement, and it wont affect you, so u just continue like normal"

your clan can cheat and be immoral whilst everyone else in the clan agrees with it, that's when having this mentality is wrong.
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Schieltkrosse is not online. Schieltkrosse
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01 Jun 2017 05:25 PM
Uhhh, have you ever heard of constructive criticism? Otherwise no, you shouldn't care about what others say or think.
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Lapis_Z is online. Lapis_Z
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01 Jun 2017 05:26 PM
lol shinedown my point exactly.

why does it matter if in the end we're more successful than you? now im not saying full out admin abuse but like stop caring about what other people might think about decisions you feel is truly correct, such as banning exploiters and etc.


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Eoofe is not online. Eoofe
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01 Jun 2017 05:27 PM
i think OP is referring more to banning an individual the leader finds valid reason to ban, or simply if they don't like them

not banning an entire raider team or anything


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Lapis_Z is online. Lapis_Z
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01 Jun 2017 05:28 PM
yea i disagree with VAK's part for banning entire raider teams just for 1 or 2 exploiters, just ban those individuals, proof doesnt mean anything because its your fort and >you saw them<


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Eoofe is not online. Eoofe
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01 Jun 2017 05:28 PM
i've fiddled with the idea of groupbanning some of the most toxic groups on this subforum from A-SOV places, never really got around to it because member perception wouldn't be good


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Vicarium is not online. Vicarium
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01 Jun 2017 05:30 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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FoggedOut is not online. FoggedOut
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01 Jun 2017 05:31 PM
@Vicarium Good point. Lmao
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nightberzerk is online. nightberzerk
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01 Jun 2017 05:51 PM
the only downside is if u do something really dumb and don't take responsibility for it. no one will wanna raid/war u.
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Eoofe is not online. Eoofe
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01 Jun 2017 05:57 PM
nah bro gotta do what's right for your clan regardless of public consequence

example: declining VOID's war and groupbanning it, effectively killing off the group


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