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Re: THE MOST RIDICULOUS LAW EVER

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Borsy is not online. Borsy
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25 May 2017 02:45 PM
in most countries, it is illegal to tune into certain radio frequency ranges, for example GSM (around 900MHz) or airband (around 120MHz)

this law is so ridiculous because it can't even be enforced, nobody can find out if you're using an antenna to listen to FM radio or airband radio, it's like a "you cannot lock indoor doors past 9PM when you are alone" law
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momim10 is not online. momim10
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25 May 2017 02:47 PM
they probably have some monitoring tech, they can locate where the signal is coming from and where it is recieved at etc

but yeah its hard to enforce stuff like this

k
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CreeperReport is not online. CreeperReport
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25 May 2017 02:48 PM
it keeps dumb people from doing it
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momim10 is not online. momim10
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25 May 2017 02:49 PM
dumb people wouldn't figure out what GSM/airband means

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CreeperReport is not online. CreeperReport
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25 May 2017 02:51 PM
"dumb people wouldn't figure out what GSM/airband means"

are you too stupid to realize that you can google it?
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appie8 is not online. appie8
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25 May 2017 02:53 PM
doesnt it like mess up planes or something???? idk i could be terribly wrong
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Borsy is not online. Borsy
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25 May 2017 02:53 PM
the thing is they can't enforce it, radio receivers are different from radio transmitters

using strong transmitters without a permit will make a loud footprint and police can easily track where the signal is coming from

using receivers literally leaves no footprint. unless police came to your home, they can't know the following:
- whether or not you're using the receiver
- which frequency you are listening to
- whether or not you even have a receiver

so unless they searched every house, this law CAN'T be enforced
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Borsy is not online. Borsy
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25 May 2017 02:55 PM
receivers don't mess up planes, unless it was a giant antenna covering the ATC tower in a metal bubble. car radios can receive these signals too, but most car radios restrict you to the FM band only
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Borsy is not online. Borsy
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25 May 2017 03:00 PM
soon we will have laws that say "You cannot have a thought about breaking the law" or "It is illegal to break the law in secret"


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morrill is not online. morrill
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25 May 2017 03:02 PM
Laws like this are for when things become an issue.

Gambling is another example.

The police don't actively search for private gambling (that occurs on private property, behind closed doors), and if they did happen to run across it, they'd probably ignore it.

But if their was a group of gamblers who constantly caused problems, "Oh look; we can charge them with gambling".


Same with jaywalking, no one cares if you walk in the road, as long as you're not causing problems when you do it.
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Borsy is not online. Borsy
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25 May 2017 03:07 PM
so people harmlessly listening to GSM signals which causes no harm can become an issue?


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morrill is not online. morrill
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25 May 2017 03:14 PM
Apparently, someone found a reason for it.

It seems unlikely that one would take the time to create statutes relating to this just for the hell of it.
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Borsy is not online. Borsy
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25 May 2017 03:17 PM
there isn't a reason though, the worst you could do is listen to an airband transmission to listen to what the pilot of your plane is saying


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PulchritudinousCore is online. PulchritudinousCore
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25 May 2017 03:22 PM
is it easy to track who's broadcasting in the 530 to 1700 khz range (AM radio signals)

i plan to get a class one fcc license and be a satellite/microwave systems operator and it's really easy to broadcast and tune in illegally and hard to track



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Borsy is not online. Borsy
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25 May 2017 03:42 PM
i wouldn't recommend illegally transmitting at such frequencies, low quality transmitters usually broadcast the same thing at the frequency times any odd number

for example, if you transmit at 1000kHz it would transmit at 1000*3=3000kHz, 1000*5=5000kHz, repeated for every odd number. this could cause trouble with other stations and important devices that are needed to keep people alive
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PulchritudinousCore is online. PulchritudinousCore
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25 May 2017 03:44 PM
"for example, if you transmit at 1000kHz it would transmit at 1000*3=3000kHz, 1000*5=5000kHz, repeated for every odd number."

i see. so it's 1000khz*x with x being the odd number?

"this could cause trouble with other stations and important devices that are needed to keep people alive"

yeah emergency NWS and stuff
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Bacon_Cheeseburger is online. Bacon_Cheeseburger
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25 May 2017 03:44 PM
there already is such thing as an "illegal number"
copy protection uses large prime numbers for their encryption
if the police find you in possession of one of these illegal numbers then they can charge you with something, cant remember what the exact charge would be


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Borsy is not online. Borsy
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25 May 2017 03:55 PM
"i see. so it's 1000khz*x with x being the odd number?"

it's x*y, where x is your frequency and y being an odd number


"there already is such thing as an 'illegal number'"

yes, but this isn't an illegal number, this is dumber
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lolcactus is online. lolcactus
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25 May 2017 03:56 PM
I don't really get this law or see how this could be tracked efficiently.





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Fast_c0w is not online. Fast_c0w
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25 May 2017 03:57 PM
what


also this is bait
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Bacon_Cheeseburger is online. Bacon_Cheeseburger
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25 May 2017 03:59 PM
@bor
well technically it's one of the closest things to thought crime there is
if you memorize an illegal number it technically counts as an illegal thought


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