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Re: To leaders: this is how you improve the clan world.

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Castlemore is not online. Castlemore
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20 May 2017 05:24 PM
Doubtless most people have seen my consistent posts about how the clan world has died so if any leaders want to do anything about it here are some top tips. If these top tips aren't utilised, then chances are clans will become increasingly more elite and elite (in terms of development and skill) until by 2020 or some random year there are so few clans because you need the best tech to actually go anywhere (notice how more clans die now than in 2014).

1. Stop focusing on tech so much.

2. Don't bot (even though it's too late to stop this now. Everyone kind of ruined the search system and rendered clans unsearchable).

3. Stop focusing on having the best uniforms so much.

4. For general clan members: stop focusing on only joining clans based on tech and uniforms.

5. Stop having ABSOLUTELY SPECIAL ELITE DIVISIONS THAT NOBODY CAN GET INTO UNLESS YOU'RE THE BEST OF THE BEST AND IF YOU'RE IN ONE THEN YOU GET AUTOMATIC PRECEDENCE AND FAVOUR BY OUR HRS. I like the system that RAT Immortals had where there's a degree system and you rank up through elite trainings and they teach you to be elite.

6. Start writing lore again. Does anybody else miss the WIJ stories people used to make? Now everybody is just a.. well.. army.

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OK. It's your choice to utilise this. I'm obviously gonna get flame ("Clans aren't even dead, lol. The amount of general corruption and social circles in this community show off our golden age activity.") but as I said it's any leader's choice to bother making their clan good.


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Aerofall is online. Aerofall
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20 May 2017 05:25 PM
Sounds about right.


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Castlemore is not online. Castlemore
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20 May 2017 05:27 PM
Yeah. When CptArcadia kept bragging about his tech I was just thinking.. "Dude. You just upped the competition because now more clans are going to waste money in this arms race and more small clans will go defunct cause they can't keep up."

This is a universal issue :/


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STR0DE5 is not online. STR0DE5
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20 May 2017 05:28 PM
6 is so true. the stories/lore about clans were always the best part.
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BlackShootaz is not online. BlackShootaz
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20 May 2017 05:29 PM
Agreed, lore was cool.
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PowerSoldier is online. PowerSoldier
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20 May 2017 05:30 PM
Honestly not bad dude...

Just, people are as dedicated as they used to be.


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brandon is not online. brandon
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20 May 2017 05:30 PM
well a lot of the problem too is that theres so few developers that prices for small things have skyrocketed and the only way to even get into the game is home made tech which for a lot of people isnt even possible i understand that being so few developers they are probably more sought after and the higher price is to filter out people that would waste their time but seriously like people charging 10k for a single uniform is actually ### lmao and scripters and stuff are so rare and the ones that are here all are inhouse devs for other clans so its like rip to new clans
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Castlemore is not online. Castlemore
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20 May 2017 05:31 PM
Power. People are NOT just as dedicated as they used to be.

Clans die left, right, and centre. Why?

- Hype. People like Pragmatist and Obtention for example just hype their clans and die and repeat (with more little success each time). Is this dedication?

- I am constantly seeing threads of people leaving due to corruption. Are the corrupt people dedicated? Are the people who leave dedicated? They were, but they can't be anymore.


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PowerSoldier is online. PowerSoldier
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20 May 2017 05:32 PM
Lol... I meant to put a "not" in there...

God damn it lol.


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Castlemore is not online. Castlemore
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20 May 2017 05:33 PM
@brandon:

My theory is this:

This "arms race" that started, where everyone is suddenly wanting the best possible tech, will result in more people having to spend more money every single year. Developers get richer, which leads to corruption. Leaders get poorer, and then their clans die cause someone else was richer and got better tech.

As the years go by, these clans die and die, until there are only a select few left and everybody else has lost motivation to lead.

Feel free to track this and quote it when this does happen. I know it will, cause if you've observed it's happening already.


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CrimsonForce is online. CrimsonForce
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20 May 2017 05:34 PM
power clans bad super clans good


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PowerSoldier is online. PowerSoldier
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20 May 2017 05:34 PM
I've lead in both. They're not the same anymore :P


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RevenantKing is not online. RevenantKing
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20 May 2017 05:34 PM
My solution: make sick tech, and share it with more clans
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brandon is not online. brandon
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20 May 2017 05:36 PM
sharing is a cool idea but most scripters especially arent willing to do that

and then people get hate for using these collective models released for general use so lol
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Castlemore is not online. Castlemore
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20 May 2017 05:36 PM
"My solution: make sick tech, and share it with more clans"

This is the (partial) opposite of what should be done.

People would still want to undermine said "sick tech" by making even better tech because people are still in this mindset that tech is the best possible thing someone can have for success.


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CrimsonForce is online. CrimsonForce
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20 May 2017 05:39 PM
dw bros i'll release a simplified version of a holo/simulation in the near future thats really easily customizeable ok ?


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PowerSoldier is online. PowerSoldier
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20 May 2017 05:40 PM
Don't forget guys.
We could always give up.
That is an option!


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Castlemore is not online. Castlemore
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20 May 2017 05:41 PM
Lovely. A VAC saying that giving up is an option.


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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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20 May 2017 05:41 PM
nice of u to put some effort into writing abt an important problem

However U are incorrect
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Castlemore is not online. Castlemore
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20 May 2017 05:42 PM
OK, WannaBet. Mind elaborating on how I'm incorrect instead of just leaving it there? I'm open to debating.


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brandon is not online. brandon
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20 May 2017 05:42 PM
castlemore should lead a clan with his values and see if he can get farther then most clans

this isnt meant to sound like im undermining what youre saying im just curious if you could get a clan farther than these startups following your own morals and goals in todays society

social experiment?
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PowerSoldier is online. PowerSoldier
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20 May 2017 05:43 PM
@Castle:

Was a joke, but say what you want I guess. :P Sarcasm I guess isn't in the clan world's future.


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Castlemore is not online. Castlemore
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20 May 2017 05:44 PM
"castlemore should lead a clan with his values and see if he can get farther then most clans

this isnt meant to sound like im undermining what youre saying im just curious if you could get a clan farther than these startups following your own morals and goals in todays society

social experiment?"

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I was already on it. Secula (x1pro) and I were talking about it the other day and we decided to make a development chat. We're just browsing around looking for intelligent people who'd like to make a community-based clan (not a tech-based one) and recruiting them in. A few people are interested already. :p


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brandon is not online. brandon
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20 May 2017 05:45 PM
id be interested too.
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Castlemore is not online. Castlemore
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20 May 2017 05:46 PM
Feel free to add me on Discord then. :) Castlemore#3173


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