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Re: when ppl call vak a bad clan

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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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12 May 2017 04:37 PM
and say it's inferior

but it's literally been regarded as the toughest opponent for the past six years running


come on kids i know you are new but Come on
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Hazfu is online. Hazfu
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12 May 2017 04:38 PM
That's why they call it bad. People always tend to flame the best, just look at sports/esports.


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iDisgrace is online. iDisgrace
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12 May 2017 04:39 PM
im not in it so it can't be good
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Weaponizing is not online. Weaponizing
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12 May 2017 04:39 PM
toughest because u cant bring them to the negotiation table
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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12 May 2017 04:39 PM
if it's the toughest opponent then clans are pretty weak considering VAK has been beaten by Fc (x2), TGI, VOID, EL, and UAF
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inf3rnalized is not online. inf3rnalized
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12 May 2017 04:39 PM
void flawlessed vak


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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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12 May 2017 04:40 PM
its toughest opponent because unlike your clans it's always alive lol

ned u know that is outright lie why u do this?

fc tied vak twice having the lead one time and trailing behind. when it had the lead it had the whole clan community helping it lol.

'lost to void'


are u trying to trigger me Rn
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iDisgrace is online. iDisgrace
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12 May 2017 04:41 PM
we beat vak in tgi
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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12 May 2017 04:43 PM
FC beat VAK twice - using cease fires to avoid losses is cheating, and so are ATACs. and FC beat them without all the clan hopping members of the clan world that go join every war, we didn't have the "clan community"
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Flaminquo is online. Flaminquo
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12 May 2017 04:48 PM
if it's the toughest opponent then clans are pretty weak considering VAK has been beaten by Fc (x2), TGI, VOID, EL, and UAF


Ashley | Second in Command of UAF
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bryceeb9 is not online. bryceeb9
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12 May 2017 04:48 PM
No wedge, no war


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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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12 May 2017 04:48 PM
fc settled on a tie with vak and it leveraged the entire clan community against vak on top of it so relax big boi
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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12 May 2017 04:49 PM
flam why tf u lying as well uaf never beat vak

you kids are shameless


hypocritical too to accuse vak of cheating and lying only to then do it yourselves against it...


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ExaltedSovereign is not online. ExaltedSovereign
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12 May 2017 04:49 PM
VAK is good, they just take the game's worth to a certain point, then exceed it. I think that's what angers us is their lack of care for anything but VAK.


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Kimxia is not online. Kimxia
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12 May 2017 04:50 PM
What he said. ^


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bluecheetah14 is not online. bluecheetah14
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12 May 2017 04:50 PM
That was a different era of VAK and a cease fire doesn't mean a loss. Even intensesnows admits that FC has never beaten VAK so i'm not sure what you're still going on about. These are new HR's, new elites, and new VAC that's going into war.


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Flaminquo is online. Flaminquo
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12 May 2017 04:51 PM
bloxman's uaf beat the vak coalition thing


Ashley | Second in Command of UAF
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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12 May 2017 04:52 PM
we never leveraged the clan world against VAK, that was post-tgi/vak

and it was supposed to be a break to allow vac or cadet reforms (whatever it was at time), not as an excuse to avoid a war that they were losing

vak has been beaten multiple times. they cheat, use unfair tactics, and use unfair bases.

that's not being tough, that's ruining the clan world
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iDisgrace is online. iDisgrace
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12 May 2017 04:52 PM
tgi beat vak
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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12 May 2017 04:54 PM
@blue

"Different era" - good joke. Yet we see the SAME cheating tactics used over the last 5 years, so yes, it's totally different

1) using cease fires to avoid war losses is "doing anything to win"
- Used against FC (x2), UAF (While ahead!), VOID

2) Unfair bases
- Honestly name me one base that was fair

3) Refusal to defend
- Used against TGI, EL, UAF

These are only 3 examples, yet we see them in war after war that involves VAK

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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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12 May 2017 04:54 PM
what r u even on abt flam

lol dude dont tell me you never leveraged the community fort wolf would have more allies defending it in the first war than fc. vak cheats and uses unfair tactics but it doesnt really get beaten. it either finds loopholes or its enemies cheat too which nullifies its transgressions.

claim abt it ruining the war clan is a dif story but dont conflate it with the fact that it is a remarkably stable, active clan w/ a strong community
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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12 May 2017 04:55 PM
it is OKAY to be able to say that a clan has a good force and superb performance all while judging the effect it has on clans

i do it too and publicly call roverse crap. no big deal. good clan doenst mean perfect
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Flaminquo is online. Flaminquo
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12 May 2017 04:58 PM
oh yeah, VAK did that as well

they called bs mid-war when we were up in 2015 and it ended in a ceasefire.

but what i was talking about is when we dismantled the unity coalition or whatever it was called while bloxman was the leader of UAF.


Ashley | Second in Command of UAF
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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12 May 2017 04:58 PM
except it doesn't have good performance/superb forces when they have lost multiple times
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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12 May 2017 04:59 PM
WELL IF U AGREED TO CEASEFIRE U AGREED TO CEASEFIRE DO U UNDERSTAND THAT

JUST LIKE IF U AGREED TO PAY A GUY 50K ROBUX OR SOMETHING AND TOLD HIM HE DOESNT HAVE TO FINISH YOUR FORT IT IS UR PROBLEM
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