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Re: I guess it's the effort that counts

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rescinded is not online. rescinded
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29 Mar 2017 10:21 AM
Recent shout in NFC:

"[MSG] Several trainings every few hours to be hosted consistently this entire week, along with the occasional raid. Hopefully you should be able to make it to trainings more easily if you often miss them."

With the current inactive 21000 members that NFC has, it's highly unlikely this clan will even hit 10 members at trainings.

Not only that, NFC uses the same old same old techniques and trainings that don't work. It's no wonder this clan is in the ditch. WoopiWoopi, like his predecessor ezaiahs, have no understanding of how to make a clan successful.

This clan is going in a dark direction and it's sad to see

tldr: nfc is getting even worse than it already is.
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A_idann is not online. A_idann
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29 Mar 2017 10:23 AM
ok
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rescinded is not online. rescinded
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29 Mar 2017 10:28 AM
ikr
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Joxern is not online. Joxern
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29 Mar 2017 01:29 PM
Hey, what's up rescinded. Time for a lesson in hypocrisy, jealousy as well as selfishness.

You seem like a competent dude, understandable and obviously someone who knows your (insert swear word that involves feces here). However, you have a tendency to fall under a few categories of personality types.

One: jealousy. You're extremely jealous over the fact that WoopiWoopi was appointed Chancellor after a fierce debate where you feel that you were obviously the one with most experience and thus should've won, where there are a number of facts as to why you didn't win, but I don't feel like that's something relevant to bring up. Speaking of you feeling like you should win, that brings me to the second category;
selfishness. You are a very selfish individual, not only gloating about what you do right, but also saying you can do much better. This is practically all you're doing with these posts
"Oh Woopi is doing this and thus with NFC and it hurts it in this and thus way" translated: "Woopi is bad, I would've done much better"

Then lastly the third and probably most interesting category; hypocrisy. You said, and I quote, "stuff happened in NFC if any of you care (betcha dont LMAO) and im just done. I'm tired of putting my time and energy into a little blocks game. Time to put my focus on my life and career.", which I find quite funny because A: you're making these posts, B: you're bashing on Woopi's leadership and obviously C: you still want to lead NFC (which obviously isn't a bad thing but considering you already said you're done with this game, this makes you look very bad).

You should loosen up a bit, perhaps take a few strolls outside and realize that bashing on someone who is trying to the best of their ability to run a group that you've spent time in and been wanting to lead is very, very rude and ridiculous of you to do. I also know your stance on a few (or every) of his ways of doing things in NFC, and his plans as you've gotten a say in it yourself, but because of your jealousy as well as your selfishness blocking you, have decided to not assist him and instead bash on him for doing bad decisions and gloat in the fact that you would've been much better of.

I've basically gotten everything I've been wanting to say off of my ch##t######I do know there might be a bit of confusion as to who I am and how cowardly it is of me to post this on an alt, but I just don't want any backlash, sadly enough.

Now, my whole intention of this post was to enlighten you on your wrong-doings in hopes that you will better your behavior toward WoopiWoopi as I don't think he appreciates an ex-fellow Council member going around bashing on h## ###w##### ideas due to your own personal conflict with him.

If I deem necessary, I will reply to this thread, otherwise this will probably be the last you see of me. Thank you and goodbye.

-Fellow concerned member of NFC
-Well-experienced with the site known as #######
-Spends way too much time on the computer
-Believes the world is just a simulation
-Probably a copy of Elon Musk
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rescinded is not online. rescinded
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29 Mar 2017 02:11 PM
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Cloudruin is not online. Cloudruin
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29 Mar 2017 02:13 PM
ooooo

a redacted
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rescinded is not online. rescinded
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29 Mar 2017 02:13 PM
Response: Pste bin: /sg04tb8A
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rescinded is not online. rescinded
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29 Mar 2017 02:13 PM
@cloud

i've never seen it in my life until now... :(
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rescinded is not online. rescinded
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29 Mar 2017 04:27 PM
redacted more like rescinded am i right? XD
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WoopiWoopi is not online. WoopiWoopi
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29 Mar 2017 04:46 PM
When I preview my thread it keeps being redacted for some reason, so I'll link a paste bin.

/Zw2FXnTU


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mrtumnus is not online. mrtumnus
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29 Mar 2017 04:53 PM
u realize nfc hasnt been good since fighters owned it right
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WoopiWoopi is not online. WoopiWoopi
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29 Mar 2017 04:54 PM
I just read your reply to the alt, and you said that I don't take advice from people who know what they're doing. I'm not sure where you get the idea, because it's literally the FIRST THING I DID when I got leadership.

The whole reason I started talking to you in the first place is because you're the exact opposite of me and you give what's often times good criticism. None of the things you criticize me for are things that are objectively bad, but just a difference in opinion. Despite that you go making a bunch of false claims and react like this.

I don't want to be too quick to judge you, as you are CLEARLY undergoing lots of things clearing your own judgement. Take a moment to think things through, and maybe talk to me personally instead of making these damn threads.


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SplashesBiggestFan is not online. SplashesBiggestFan
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29 Mar 2017 04:58 PM
redacted? roblox do that or?


~ Napping ~
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rescinded is not online. rescinded
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29 Mar 2017 04:59 PM
###### /JQ2NX1As
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rescinded is not online. rescinded
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29 Mar 2017 05:01 PM
"I just read your reply to the alt, and you said that I don't take advice from people who know what they're doing. I'm not sure where you get the idea, because it's literally the FIRST THING I DID when I got leadership."

That doesn't mean you listen to it. You're making bad decisions that are going to kill the clan.

"The whole reason I started talking to you in the first place is because you're the exact opposite of me and you give what's often times good criticism. None of the things you criticize me for are things that are objectively bad, but just a difference in opinion. Despite that you go making a bunch of false claims and react like this."

Prove that I'm making false claims. Your claim is invalid until then.

"I don't want to be too quick to judge you, as you are CLEARLY undergoing lots of things clearing your own judgement. Take a moment to think things through, and maybe talk to me personally instead of making these damn threads."

I'm good, as i tried that before.
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Destmand is not online. Destmand
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29 Mar 2017 05:08 PM
man why are you still here
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rescinded is not online. rescinded
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29 Mar 2017 05:10 PM
hey dest

i'm super triggered!!!
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Destmand is not online. Destmand
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29 Mar 2017 05:12 PM
hey super triggered, im des
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rescinded is not online. rescinded
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29 Mar 2017 05:14 PM
hey super salty des how r u

im trash and bad tbh
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WoopiWoopi is not online. WoopiWoopi
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29 Mar 2017 05:25 PM
As annoying as your threads are, responding to them are always interesting. Criticism, no matter how thought out or not, is still insight to how either a group or individual people think, so it'll help me quite a bit not to ignore it.

1. I don't expect my HICOM to host trainings. They're important in other ways.
2. My HICOM is very efficient and helpful. They help me write structure and provide input and conversation.
3. I'm alright with holding the NFC HICOM and myself accountable, in fact I expect that. What I don't expect or appreciate things like this, making unfair and unsupported/emotional claims.

The genre/weapon type of NFC doesn't matter as much as you think it does. It can't be looked at 100% objectively whether guns or swords are better. You're willing to take a risk and attempt to innovate swords for the better, I'm more inclined to run NFC like a business, and not take unnecessary risks.

A project like that with such unexplored ideas is unlikely to succeed, and it would be wrong of me to make such a huge leap from "Get NFC started up" to "Make NFC the best clan in everybody's eyes because of our superior tech" and witness yet another failure.


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rescinded is not online. rescinded
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29 Mar 2017 05:35 PM
"As annoying as your threads are, responding to them are always interesting. Criticism, no matter how thought out or not, is still insight to how either a group or individual people think, so it'll help me quite a bit not to ignore it."

Subtle jab at me I see. Not biting though.

"1. I don't expect my HICOM to host trainings. They're important in other ways.
2. My HICOM is very efficient and helpful. They help me write structure and provide input and conversation.
3. I'm alright with holding the NFC HICOM and myself accountable, in fact I expect that. What I don't expect or appreciate things like this, making unfair and unsupported/emotional claims."

If you're using your HICOM in that way, that's okay. However, you always need higher ranks engaging and helping keep the community active. It's a fact.

"The genre/weapon type of NFC doesn't matter as much as you think it does. It can't be looked at 100% objectively whether guns or swords are better. You're willing to take a risk and attempt to innovate swords for the better, I'm more inclined to run NFC like a business, and not take unnecessary risks."

I am looking at this in a business perspective as I keep trying to show you. You are latecomer in a market (gun community) at a competitive disadvantage. By innovating swords, you can enter a market and have a competitive advantage. I have business knowledge and I've been applying it actively in my arguments thanks.


"A project like that with such unexplored ideas is unlikely to succeed, and it would be wrong of me to make such a huge leap from "Get NFC started up" to "Make NFC the best clan in everybody's eyes because of our superior tech" and witness yet another failure"

1. Apparently it's not unexplored as I learned today. Go look at rome clans.
2. yeah this cautiousness is just going to kill this clan. You can take a small amount of time in establishing a system, but then you have to make that big leap. There is no room for this low energy cautiousness now.


Keep debating me. I have all the time in the world.
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GamessEater is not online. GamessEater
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29 Mar 2017 05:37 PM
threads like this certainly isnt going to be any help

you couldve helped woopi directly but instead you left and thats fine
but you just cant let go and you keep making these bait threads for no reason

bud sometimes you gotta chill about roblox yknow
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rescinded is not online. rescinded
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29 Mar 2017 05:42 PM
###### "threads like this certainly isnt going to be any help" exposing logical fallacies and bone-headed decisions my friend. Being controversial is exactly proving what I came out to do as legitimate. "you couldve helped woopi directly but instead you left and thats fine" i left because i wanted to spend a lot more time focusing on real life and secondly because i wanted to lead. "but you just cant let go and you keep making these bait threads for no reason" This isn't due to jealousy, hypocrisy, or egoism. This is about accountability. "bud sometimes you gotta chill about roblox yknow" not with nfc where i spent a long time in the clan and was a key member.
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WoopiWoopi is not online. WoopiWoopi
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29 Mar 2017 05:46 PM
So we agree that the HICOM is reasonably active and not a problem. Great, let's stop talking about that. Like the HICOM, however, high ranks' activity is limited by school, jobs, and dedication to real life. As long as they provide an excuse for not hosting, It's wrong of me to get mad at them.

I can't see why being a latecomer would be a disadvantage. A lack of experience in making guns isn't a problem because we're starting out with the basics. If I do everything right and don't rely on one developer too much then there's little that could go wrong, so NFC has plenty of time to gradually make its way up to having more and more tech.

I commented about Rome clans before reading this in another thread about gun innovation. Go see that. Innovation isn't change. Rome clans are completely different from linked swords; if I make them different instead of making them better, there's the potential that people won't take kindly to it, and because the idea is too unfamiliar they won't bother with it. Too many risks

There's plenty of room for cautiousness. The only thing negative that comes from it are accusations that slow progress = no progress, but criticism doesn't affect the progress unless I let it affect me (unless it's reasonable criticism and not... this).


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29 Mar 2017 05:52 PM
LUL this is funny


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