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Re: Sword Clans - NA vs OA

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Hyakintots is online. Hyakintots
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27 Mar 2017 01:08 PM
For the majority, there is, and has been for awhile, a very large gap between the communities of new animations (NA) and old animations (OA) for sword clans.

Most people believe that one of the two is easier, that one of the two brings in worse people, and that one of the two is overall the worse choice.

I've been leading, assisting with leading, or simply participating in sword clans since 2010-2011.

I've never really thought of it as much of a problem until much more recently, when I helped BWE switch to (70%) New Animations.

I've led nothing but Old Animation clans in the past, or been in them, and I've always thought that OA was better for some reason or another, but after switching, my viewpoint changed a lot.

I don't think NA is better, but I don't think OA is better either.

Both ones attract different people: newer members to the community tend to join NA clans, whilst the "older" members stay in OA. Both sides of the community definitively have less-than-desireables within them, but neither one is primarily to blame or at fault for having more or less than another.


The real main problem with it is that clan owners don't want to fight someone if they're not the same animation as them.

They believe their members will do worse, which, granted, they may. They believe that the other side's set of animations bring worse members, both with skill and integrity, and this goes both ways.

I don't understand the wide rift, nor the constant fighting, between the two. They still both use swords. You still use them to stab one another.

There isn't enough of a difference between OA and NA to cause any real problems.

It's like saying you can't war a group because they have a rifle and you have an SMG.
What the hell kind of sense does that make?

anyway
tl;dr

there's a very, very minute difference between oa and na
stop complaining about it
just go with it
don't require people to switch animations for a war because thats dumb
stop being dorks
join bwe


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Inevera is not online. Inevera
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27 Mar 2017 01:10 PM
If you can't you use both animations and switch easily between them, then you are weak.


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Hyakintots is online. Hyakintots
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27 Mar 2017 01:12 PM
ya
it isnt hard

clans are going to be better at one of the two, but u should be able to do both

just like u should be able to shoot with a rifle and an smg and not complain about the difference


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Saiose is not online. Saiose
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27 Mar 2017 01:12 PM
>If you can't you use both animations and switch easily between them, then you are weak.

edgy

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SlowwDogg is not online. SlowwDogg
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27 Mar 2017 01:13 PM
Erm,


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Hyakintots is online. Hyakintots
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27 Mar 2017 01:15 PM
#### #### ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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PizzaHoney is not online. PizzaHoney
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27 Mar 2017 01:15 PM
this post is so true

the clans i am in are open to both and when i see a clan ignorant about it i question their brain capacity

you can be better at one or the other (i'm slightly better at oa) but idc if we are in na




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Hyakintots is online. Hyakintots
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27 Mar 2017 01:19 PM
ya just get better at life and do le both


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Auzric is online. Auzric
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27 Mar 2017 01:21 PM
true


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HeIlTime is not online. HeIlTime
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27 Mar 2017 01:22 PM
hey sf will war you in na!
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Valoured is not online. Valoured
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27 Mar 2017 01:22 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


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muffinman99 is not online. muffinman99
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27 Mar 2017 01:26 PM
Lllololo

BWE scared =C
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Hyakintots is online. Hyakintots
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27 Mar 2017 01:27 PM
oh yes much scared very afraid


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Hyakintots is online. Hyakintots
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27 Mar 2017 03:26 PM
so helllooo fromm the otherr siiiiiiiiiiiiiiidde


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Zerkius is not online. Zerkius
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27 Mar 2017 03:31 PM
It'd be beneficial to the community if you could release a NA/OA switch script, that way groups could practice in both animations without having to manually change them in studio.

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Saiose is not online. Saiose
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27 Mar 2017 03:34 PM
oa>na

end of story

na tower = bad
na jump = bad
na center = bad

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Hyakintots is online. Hyakintots
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27 Mar 2017 03:36 PM
it's not hard to do that zerkius bwe has an animation toggle ## ### #### script is fairly simple whenever an "admin" says :anim it either deletes the current animation in workspace or takes a copy of the one it has saved as it's child and puts that into workspace then respawns all join bwe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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CrimsonForce is online. CrimsonForce
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27 Mar 2017 03:39 PM
rb has the anim switch thing as well, and will have more stuff when new holo releases
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Hyakintots is online. Hyakintots
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27 Mar 2017 03:45 PM
good kyle

i approve

rb is one of the only clans i know thats willing to do both


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Vektanius is not online. Vektanius
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27 Mar 2017 03:48 PM
So agreed.
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CrimsonForce is online. CrimsonForce
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27 Mar 2017 03:49 PM
yes
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AlmightyRaven is online. AlmightyRaven
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27 Mar 2017 03:57 PM
oa>na tbh


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Sealitey is not online. Sealitey
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27 Mar 2017 03:58 PM
I always preferred OA but I understand and agree with this post.

It is ignorant for clans to simply deny a war due to something as small as the animations.
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TENSHl is not online. TENSHl
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27 Mar 2017 03:59 PM
the REAL real problem is that not only will sword clans only war within their own animations, they will only war other sword clans
this is also why NFC is the only good sword clan


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CrimsonForce is online. CrimsonForce
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27 Mar 2017 04:00 PM
rb is open to warring gun clans
i dont see gun clans open to warring sword clans lol
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