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Re: Joseph Stalin and Vladimir Lenin were great men

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CommanderMiIIard is not online. CommanderMiIIard
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24 Mar 2017 10:03 PM
Lenin(RIP) and Stalin(RIP) brought the feudal Russian state out of serfdom and quickly industrialized the democratic workers' Soviets using the enacted policies of the scientific principles of Marxism-Leninism. It is quite impressive that they managed to build a massive superpower on par with the United States and capitalist regimes, considering they had JUST come out of serfdom and the tyranny of the Tsar.

Interesting how people say he murdered tens of millions but the population of the USSR grew by 2% during a period where it was torn apart by World War II and SUPPOSEDLY stricken by famine and mass slaughters. Germany's slaughters actually have documentation behind them, the supposed mass slaughter that Stalin supposedly did have none and is based on zero evidence, inquiry or documentation.
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NinjaofRobloxia is not online. NinjaofRobloxia
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24 Mar 2017 10:04 PM
yes. and Hillary clinton and ###### are good people
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CommanderMiIIard is not online. CommanderMiIIard
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24 Mar 2017 10:06 PM
Hillary Clinton is what's known as a "conservative liberal". So... a capitalist.
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Pinyin is not online. Pinyin
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24 Mar 2017 10:14 PM
" the supposed mass slaughter that Stalin supposedly did have none and is based on zero evidence, inquiry or documentation."

here's some good starter books:

"I Chose Freedom" by Victor Kravchenko
"Gulag Archipelago" by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
"Alexander Dolgun's Story" by Alexander Dolgun
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CommanderMiIIard is not online. CommanderMiIIard
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24 Mar 2017 10:22 PM
Robert Conquest himself LITERALLY ADMITTED that he exaggerated when he was talking about gulags and the famine in the Ukraine but no one paid attention to it
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eeoa is not online. eeoa
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24 Mar 2017 10:23 PM
Yeah they were good leaders

What's your point


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Pinyin is not online. Pinyin
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24 Mar 2017 10:25 PM
"Robert Conquest himself LITERALLY ADMITTED that he exaggerated when he was talking about gulags and the famine in the Ukraine but no one paid attention to it"


who is he and why is he relevant
born: Malvern, United Kingdom

let's talk about people that actually experienced stalin's rule
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Commander_Scar is online. Commander_Scar
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24 Mar 2017 10:28 PM
It takes more of an imagination to claim that the Soviet's mass slaughtering people never occurred than it would to suggest what the Germans did to be fabricated.


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CommanderMiIIard is not online. CommanderMiIIard
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24 Mar 2017 10:29 PM
It literally never happened lads
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ryanwraith is not online. ryanwraith
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24 Mar 2017 10:30 PM
They were terrible. Not only did they ruin Russian culture by removing the Monarchy, and many traditions, but they implemented one of the worst, and most corrupt forms of government known to man; Communism. Stalin also killed anyone he saw as a threat to his power, including fellow revolutionaries, Jews, Kazakhs, Chechens, and even his friend; Leon Trotsky. Lenin is no better, he has people who did not agree with his platform murdered, and he encouraged the robbing of banks, promoted terror attacks, and broke people out of prison just to force them be apart of the Red Army. Not to mention he was an anti-Semite, and he completely abandoned his allies during WW1. He was also most likely a German spy as well, sense he came out of Germany in order to sow revolution, and as soon as he became leader, he surrendered to Germany. You are probably one of those people who thinks Communism is cool, but have never actually researched it in depth.
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CommanderMiIIard is not online. CommanderMiIIard
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24 Mar 2017 10:32 PM
I don't know why you think being a literal serf to a king is a good thing to have as part of your culture. You have to crack a few eggs to make an omelette anyway. Was the American Revolution bad too because they had to use violence to get a better system? Also, the Soviets weren't corrupt at all, they were democratically run by the workers.
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Pinyin is not online. Pinyin
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24 Mar 2017 10:38 PM
"Also, the Soviets weren't corrupt at all, they were democratically run by the workers. "


i honestly can't tell if you're a troll or you're actually buying into the brainwashing
this is some really stupid stuff
there was nothing democratic about stalin holding onto a life tenure by having any political rivals executed.
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Commander_Scar is online. Commander_Scar
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24 Mar 2017 10:39 PM
The American revolution was in no way shape or form anything like the Communist Revolution.


It shows you lack any basic understanding of history in GENERAL if you believe those are even comparable.


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CommanderMiIIard is not online. CommanderMiIIard
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24 Mar 2017 10:39 PM
Trotsky betrayed the revolution and threw a hissy fit because the Soviets democratically elected Stalin over him. Then Stalin wrecked him with an ice pick.
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CommanderMiIIard is not online. CommanderMiIIard
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24 Mar 2017 10:40 PM
They're comparable because they were cases where the people rose up and overthrew harsh rulers, and violently replaced the old system with a better one.
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24 Mar 2017 10:43 PM
"I don't know why you think being a literal serf to a king is a good thing to have as part of your culture."

Why are you calling them Serfs? Catharine the Great outlawed Serfdom in 1775. Not only that but the Communist government practically banned any traditional religions, holidays, or gathers not approved by the state (The state btw, was very much Ahtiests, who believe in the existence of no god, and most of culture is based on the belief of some form of greater power)

"You have to crack a few eggs to make an omelette anyway."

Pretty big egg to throw out centuries of Russian culture for a brainwashing Soviet state.

"Was the American Revolution bad too because they had to use violence to get a better system?"

Did you literally just imply that the Confederates had a better system than the Federalists? You do realize that the Confederated PROMOTED slav########ht? You just pretty much showed support for the completely opposite side of the spectrum.

"Also, the Soviets weren't corrupt at all, they were democratically run by the workers."

Completely and absolutely false. The Bolshiviks ran everything, and for your to run for any kind of position, you had to have been an official Bolshevik. Sounds like corruption to me. Also you could not vote in the Soviet Union, government officials were selected by a council of Bolsheviks.

Also, if Communism doesn't sound bad yet, you had to wait in long lines for a single loaf of bread to feed your entire family, which means starvation actually went up after the Tzar was removed. Besides that, the lazy person who did practically nothing during the job got the same pay as a person who was hard working, and more qualified.

Literally one of the worst kinds of governments introduced to the world.
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Minstronomer is not online. Minstronomer
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24 Mar 2017 10:44 PM
Vladimir Lenin wasn't terrible. He's a commie but the Czar was truly a bad leader and he never did anything significantly wrong.


Joseph Stalin, while an "effective?" leader, was a terrible humnan being.


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Commander_Scar is online. Commander_Scar
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24 Mar 2017 10:45 PM
It's very arguable that Russia's 'better' system was actually worth doing.

If you know anything about the violent murder of Rasputin or the Royal Family and you STILL think what they did was 'reasonable' you are a very ill person.

I imagine you are probably one of those Antifa people who complain about capitalism while you do so, use platforms and inventions that were made possible through a capitalistic system.


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CommanderMiIIard is not online. CommanderMiIIard
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24 Mar 2017 10:47 PM
If your culture revolves around deluding yourself into thinking your imaginary friends are real I think it's time for a cultural shift.
LOL what are you even talking about with the Confederates? That was almost a hundred years after the American Revolution.
Also, if you wanted to participate in the democracy, why wouldn't you just join the Bolsheviks?
About the breadlines... wow, what a horrible concept! You stand in line to get bread instead of starve on the streets!

"the lazy person who did practically nothing during the job got the same pay as a person who was hard working, and more qualified"
Sounds a lot like modern capitalism actually
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Minstronomer is not online. Minstronomer
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24 Mar 2017 10:47 PM
okay but rasputin's the biggest meme to ever live.


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CommanderMiIIard is not online. CommanderMiIIard
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24 Mar 2017 10:48 PM
"I imagine you are probably one of those Antifa people who complain about capitalism while you do so, use platforms and inventions that were made possible through a capitalistic system."

If you American revolutionaries are so opposed to British rule, why do you speak English? Checkmate!
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ryanwraith is not online. ryanwraith
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24 Mar 2017 10:48 PM
At Min

-was most likely a German spy

-Promoted the robbing of banks

-Supportered acts of terror

-Had anyone who disagreed with his platform imprisonned or killed

-Freed people from the Tzars prison (Some of which were murderers and worse) and forced them to fight for the red army or be killed.


Sounds like a bad guy to me.
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Pinyin is not online. Pinyin
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24 Mar 2017 10:51 PM
"LOL what are you even talking about with the Confederates? That was almost a hundred years after the American Revolution."

yeah gonna agree with you here

"Also, if you wanted to participate in the democracy, why wouldn't you just join the Bolsheviks?"

there was nothing democratic about the bolsheviks. zero. nothing. nada. the bolsheviks were one of the many groups that took power through violent means in the anarchy following the tsar's abdication.

"About the breadlines... wow, what a horrible concept! You stand in line to get bread instead of starve on the streets!"

>holodomor
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