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Re: why fear is the biggest let down

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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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21 Mar 2017 11:38 PM
the clan makes about 1.2-1.4 mil from sunset city alone in revenue. this figure is exponentially smaller compared to what the game used to make back when it was heavily advertised. out of the money it makes, a couple of thousands is reinvested back into fear for events like contests. the developers of the projects receive a one time payout of about 100-300k. where does the rest of the money go? to mr. sonic the hedgehog.

fear does have the potential, with the experience of its developers and the earnings made from their products, to revitalize clans by creating a product that newcomers will gravitate towards. but instead, it's run as a for-profit corporation by a person who pays himself over 90% of profits for management.

how unfortunate for the community



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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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21 Mar 2017 11:42 PM
1.2-1.4 mil on a monthly basis
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LinYinFang is not online. LinYinFang
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21 Mar 2017 11:44 PM
I was in fear for maybe 2 weeks and I never saw them rally over 25 and the training place had 2 guns and like 5 maps

So much for advanced tech and super high activity right?
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Ashley_Antonia is not online. Ashley_Antonia
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21 Mar 2017 11:44 PM
fear members don't get yourselves suspended

you've been warned


Ashley | Urban Assault Forces Second in Command
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Gi_R is online. Gi_R
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21 Mar 2017 11:44 PM
We are ruled by an Autocratic Dictator!


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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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21 Mar 2017 11:45 PM
the reason being its resources are focused on competing with other games on the front page so that mr sonic can devex more money from roblox
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nitroyoshi9 is not online. nitroyoshi9
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21 Mar 2017 11:45 PM
some of our devs are expected to work for free lol
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Dalmati is not online. Dalmati
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21 Mar 2017 11:46 PM
this game is dead. ur wasting your life on this game and thats the biggest letdown.
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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21 Mar 2017 11:46 PM
i get the expectation when you are a smaller clan just starting out, but when you are reaping millions off of the labour of others, it's utter bs to expect devs to work for free.
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LinYinFang is not online. LinYinFang
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21 Mar 2017 11:47 PM
TELL THAT TO FLAVOURED *GLARES*
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Blandue is not online. Blandue
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21 Mar 2017 11:48 PM
Okay so the main reason that they are so focused on getting the Sunset City update out is because I'm almost positive that ROBLOX is one of their main sources of income. Once Sunset City is finished, all of ATC's attention is going to be directed towards FEAR/Nexus, which will provide FEAR with enough income that we won't even need Sunset City funds.

It's understandable that you'd make this assumption seeing as you're not at all involved in any of this or in contact with either SONIC or SHADOW, so don't take my response as any sort of aggression.


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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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21 Mar 2017 11:48 PM
flavoued cant even devex im pretty sure
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Ashley_Antonia is not online. Ashley_Antonia
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21 Mar 2017 11:48 PM
BLANDUE

hush


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ImperialOutcast is not online. ImperialOutcast
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21 Mar 2017 11:50 PM
Let's be realistic.


Today's society is centered on the ideology of "every man for himself". There is no more friendly helping, and if Sonic wishes to use his group as a way to make profit... than he can choose to do so.


It's honestly none of your business how much income he makes regardless of your petty estimations that aren't even accurate.
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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21 Mar 2017 11:50 PM
bland, in its current state, sunset is raking in over 1.2mil a month. what excuse is there in the fact that hardly any of it gets put back into fear?

close friends who are high up in the group tell me that fear's budget is literally a couple of tens of thousands and that there's hardly any financial transparency at all. you don't even have a financial council like rat which looks over how much the organization makes and splits equity.
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LinYinFang is not online. LinYinFang
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21 Mar 2017 11:50 PM
It gets accepted or declined this week so we shall see
Regardless, 1.6 mil from RE in a month and didn't pay us -_-
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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21 Mar 2017 11:51 PM
'petty estimations that aren't accurate'

go scroll through the top earning page and search for 'winter crisis' or 'sunset city'. we've been relatively at the same spot for over a month now, with our game pulling ahead and behind every now and then.
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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21 Mar 2017 11:52 PM
we're in the very same row right now in fact

lol
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Blandue is not online. Blandue
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21 Mar 2017 11:53 PM
Because we've got almost 200k in group funds saved up and we don't do much that requires us to spend it other than the (bi)monthly competitions/contests that we do.

The devs that do work don't do jobs directly for SONIC and SHADOW (it's usually one of the high ranks like our Director of Community Affairs asking for something to be made, and he makes it clear that they are most likely not going paid), so it makes sense that those who aren't working on FEAR's main projects don't get paid.


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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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21 Mar 2017 11:54 PM
i don't understand.

where is the absurd amount of money sunset city is making going to??
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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21 Mar 2017 11:55 PM
1.2+ a month in taxable revenue but you only have 200k in your treasury and devs are often times expected to work without pay?

who is the money going to!
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Blandue is not online. Blandue
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21 Mar 2017 11:55 PM
SONIC and SHADOW? Like I said, I'm almost positive that ROBLOX is (one of) their major sources of income. Thinking practically, no one should expect them to put money that they use for living expenses into a group that has enough money to support itself without any help.


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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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21 Mar 2017 11:56 PM
what a scam

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Blandue is not online. Blandue
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21 Mar 2017 11:57 PM
I've said all I really need to say, I hope what I've told you has given you some insight on both SONIC/SHADOW's and the group's situation.


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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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21 Mar 2017 11:58 PM
there's no excuse for paying people virtually nothing for their work. if they rely on money made from roblox to live than they should get jobs or learn to produce their own games the way Owen & SS do.

ik shadow builds, but what does sonic do outside of management?
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