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Re: Any VAKS want to talk about the TGI-VAK war?

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ryanwraith is not online. ryanwraith
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15 Mar 2017 12:01 AM
Let's dispute each other without the flaming. Thanks. :)
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Father_Satan is not online. Father_Satan
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15 Mar 2017 12:02 AM
argue about clan drama at 1 am est or sleep hmmm


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Tottenham_Hotspur is not online. Tottenham_Hotspur
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15 Mar 2017 12:02 AM
No idea if it's been lifted but pretty sure VAK had a censorship policy around discussion of the war on C&G

tldr they can't take TGI's side
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ryanwraith is not online. ryanwraith
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15 Mar 2017 12:02 AM
10:00 down here.
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ryanwraith is not online. ryanwraith
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15 Mar 2017 12:05 AM
@Tott

Guess no one wants to argue that Arcadia won the war.

Looks like I won before it even began.

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PremierAlaz is not online. PremierAlaz
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15 Mar 2017 12:06 AM
ooo, drama
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Father_Satan is not online. Father_Satan
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15 Mar 2017 12:07 AM
nice try to bait but here as is how i see it



Alive today = vak


dead and nobody cares about anymore = tgi


doesn't matter what happened in the past


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vaiker is not online. vaiker
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15 Mar 2017 12:08 AM
why are you discussing this

youre in the 10 thousandth ######## clone of tgi with a different logo

no one cares about this anymore, it was a LONG time ago
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ryanwraith is not online. ryanwraith
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15 Mar 2017 12:16 AM
@Father

And you still think VAK is relevant?

VAK is rotting from the inside, many Vaktovian veterans have said it over and over again.

TGI may be dead, but the community lives on through groups like TGR, and DoA.

That's the thing VAK never had, a strong community that actually cared about each other. VAK is all about ego, claiming to be the best clan, and silencing those from within who speak out against it.

It's actually funny that people even think for a second that the death of TGI is because of VAK, it is because of many reasons. Bad leaders, factions within the Imperium, and overall the downfall of clans altogether.

The whole entire reason why VAK avoids C&G is simply because they know their members will get their poor minds unbrainwashed by truth, and the propaganda will die.
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Father_Satan is not online. Father_Satan
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15 Mar 2017 12:19 AM
frankly my dude, i think you are caring too much about important issues

vak is alive, and tgi is dead


just let people have their fun man whats your problem


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Father_Satan is not online. Father_Satan
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15 Mar 2017 12:19 AM
*unimportant


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Vermox is not online. Vermox
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15 Mar 2017 12:23 AM
why are people still talking about something that happened like 5 years ago, who cares and move on
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Father_Satan is not online. Father_Satan
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15 Mar 2017 12:25 AM
right


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ryanwraith is not online. ryanwraith
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15 Mar 2017 12:25 AM
This is not about TGI.

This is about Vaktovians to this day still calling Arcadians trash, despite all the censorship and corruption within their own clan.

How can your clan even for a second call itself 'mighty', and 'great' when no one has given a crap about VAK sense 2015?

The Arcadian groups are still relevant, despite being divided over idiotic squabbling. People don't really worry much about VAK, old news, an old clan. DoA, and TGR are current, and are actually talked about with some taking a possitive side, while others take a negative. While VAK is always spoken about in a negative light, and when it isent it's in regard to its past. A past that is long gone, and can never be relived.
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DemonTitan is online. DemonTitan
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15 Mar 2017 12:28 AM
Cool.
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gostriderthe2 is not online. gostriderthe2
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15 Mar 2017 12:29 AM
What Vaktovians called TGI trash recently?

And even if they did, that's their opinion, not much you can do, just ignore them, a debate won't change their minds.
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SevirosBiggestFan is not online. SevirosBiggestFan
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15 Mar 2017 12:30 AM
vaktovians have always called arcadians trash
maybe not on C&G but in ts3's primarily their own.


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ryanwraith is not online. ryanwraith
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15 Mar 2017 12:32 AM
@Gos

Several VAKs talked about TGI in a negative light during after the TGR raids. Two of them did as I recall. One an officer even, another some random VAC or something. Can't recall their names.
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gostriderthe2 is not online. gostriderthe2
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15 Mar 2017 12:32 AM
Well then, not much you can do about it, I'm pretty sure their narrow-minded opinion is set firm in their mind,, so changing their opinion on TGI would be near impossible, especially if they're massively narrow-minded.(Of course I'm talking about any Vaktovians that've called TGI trash without being open-minded about it)
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TheLastingMillennia is online. TheLastingMillennia
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15 Mar 2017 12:34 AM
"Hey, let's not flame each other"

>bashes Vaktovia to death

hmm...
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SevirosBiggestFan is not online. SevirosBiggestFan
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15 Mar 2017 12:35 AM
you can't be open-minded with the honored rec center elevator guards.


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Aurikon is not online. Aurikon
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15 Mar 2017 12:37 AM
So what's with the hypocrisy?

You ask to have a discussion without flame..

Yet here you are, bashing them without reason?

gg
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Commander_Scar is online. Commander_Scar
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15 Mar 2017 12:37 AM
VAK broke war terms and did things they weren't supposed to. However it was because of weak leadership it was allowed to happen. TGI's leader Toberdam completely humiliated himself with what he did. A lot happened, carried on with it leading and ended up having a lot of problems.

It could have all been fine if TGI took the high ground but decided to play in the dirt which VAK is very well known for playing in and has experience with such.

When I was an Officer in VOID I saw a similar problem to this occurring with ISO 'quitting'.

I don't see why people get in the lead, (Like Frost Clan which if the VAK-FC war ever restarted FC has quite a bit of a lead on VAK) and they can't finish the job.


Guardian Units of Nations,Leader~Scar~
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SevirosBiggestFan is not online. SevirosBiggestFan
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15 Mar 2017 12:39 AM
To be fair I can't really blame him

The sheer amount of cheating and nonsense that happened in VAK vs TGI was a turning point for clans everywhere, and has laid groundwork for other cheater clans like RAT.

I remember RATs cheating with disgust, and that was less than 2 months.

Now try to see if you can remember nearly a year of BS from VAK, starting with them doing it in the first place because they're losing.

You can't. You're going to hate VAK.

So I don't really blame the dude here lol.


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ryanwraith is not online. ryanwraith
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15 Mar 2017 12:41 AM
@Aur

First flame was from a VAK

"nice try to bait but here as is how i see it



Alive today = vak


dead and nobody cares about anymore = tgi


doesn't matter what happened in the past"

- Satan

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