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Re: I don't think it's okay for non-owners to value items

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ninjapenguin23 is not online. ninjapenguin23
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14 Mar 2017 08:23 PM
or people who havent at least owned the item in the past month to give input

All you get in inaccuracies and people who want the item can't get it because they try to send the values that others set on the item.

For instance, BiB.

i've had for 2 days and while being bashed and valued at 65 i've already had several offers above 65k.

But since the majority agrees on a value people will struggle to get one for the "value" everyone sets.

It's even worse for low-stock.. I'm gonna use B$B as an obvious example:

People claim it "should" be worth 75k and that you can EASILY get one for 80k.

Or that it can never be 100k+ and it's just sharks


I've had 3 100k+ trades inbound in the past 2 days, all which I obviously declined.

But it's unfair for people who want the item because LMaD will continue to miss value the item due to bias and ignorance.



Piece maker was a different situation:

People wanted Piece to raise and liked it, but it's value was actually based on mostly faked trades a hype

3 weeks later and it's already crashed 50k from its "value"




LMaD needs to let owners / recent owners to give values and not non-owners or people who have nothing to do with an item (havent had inbound and havent attempted to get it)





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microshue is not online. microshue
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14 Mar 2017 08:23 PM
In the rocks staff discord anyone who owns the item has a higher count in opinion


The art of the compromise -- Hold your nose and close your eyes
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ninjapenguin23 is not online. ninjapenguin23
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14 Mar 2017 08:25 PM
I don't mean Rocks values. I'm just saying universally since not everyone goes off of what rocks say.

I personally only care about rocks for my RAP or when I need to prove values to people who want an item of mine.




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SunShiba is not online. SunShiba
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14 Mar 2017 08:26 PM
Applies to bv '-'
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ninjapenguin23 is not online. ninjapenguin23
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14 Mar 2017 08:27 PM
But then again, you also can't let bias be involved.

I think the ex-owners thing matters if you take into account what they say b4 and recently after they trade it.

@shiba

BV is just bashed, its probably 400-450k RN.

Owners were bad and let it go easily, but now you guys got good owners ;3


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Shiny_God is online. Shiny_God
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14 Mar 2017 08:27 PM
Hypocrite ## ##### *any time is sparkle time* -shinyzz
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Bombardir is online. Bombardir
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14 Mar 2017 08:27 PM
So if all the pistf owners agreed its 500k i guess its 500k


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King7030 is not online. King7030
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14 Mar 2017 08:28 PM
Same thing happened with rdc tbh bad owners out and the owners now are good
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YUNl is not online. YUNl
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14 Mar 2017 08:29 PM
someone gave messor for bv+cwhp+13k
so bv must be at least 450 now !!


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ninjapenguin23 is not online. ninjapenguin23
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14 Mar 2017 08:29 PM
I never said that, if you read what I wrote then you're ignorance wouldnt be shining so much rn.

@pistf oder


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Rock_y is not online. Rock_y
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14 Mar 2017 08:30 PM
hypocrite, u legit said a week ago how bsb was bad


-rocky Trade link; https://www.roblox.com/Trade/TradeWindow.aspx?TradePartnerID=22924695 Send on over 440k
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ninjapenguin23 is not online. ninjapenguin23
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14 Mar 2017 08:30 PM
"owners / recent owners"

it obviously has to have proof of trades as well and take into account demand and reasons for why they gave as much.


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TitanicKungfubot is not online. TitanicKungfubot
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14 Mar 2017 08:30 PM
tl;dr plz


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ninjapenguin23 is not online. ninjapenguin23
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14 Mar 2017 08:31 PM
@rock

ive had b$b for over a month 1/2.

It was a troll thread you dense fool.


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ninjapenguin23 is not online. ninjapenguin23
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14 Mar 2017 08:32 PM
tl;dr

owners / recent owners opinions should be weighed more than people who haven't attempted to get the item or haven't had it inbound for the value they claim it to be.

(obviously proof of trades and reason for trade applies)


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PandaDemic is not online. PandaDemic
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14 Mar 2017 08:33 PM
ninja i always used to think like this but it simply doesn't in the case of most items. certain criteria need to be met.
a. it's a rare. 0% chance of this working when u got a decent amt of owners running around
b. owners are willing to work together and be patient
c. it has acceptable demand

with these 3 criteria, owners can more or less decide the value, so long as they dont get too biased. but in any other case it wont work.


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ninjapenguin23 is not online. ninjapenguin23
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14 Mar 2017 08:35 PM
OFC

I don't see it working on high demand and highly circulated items.

But on items which are seldom traded it should be required.




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Kelsandjo is not online. Kelsandjo
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14 Mar 2017 08:36 PM
Ya just give up obviously our opinions don't really matter


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PandaDemic is not online. PandaDemic
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14 Mar 2017 08:36 PM
well of course. don't get me wrong. i think you have the right basic concept here, that owners do play a role in the value of an item. i mean rares values are entirely owner based lol. why would we be valuing rares by the standards of demand, they wouldn't go anywher lmao


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lINewYxrklI is not online. lINewYxrklI
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14 Mar 2017 08:37 PM
But honestly its no owners who are going to offer the amount so yea. Your argument is invalid in some parts.
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PandaDemic is not online. PandaDemic
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14 Mar 2017 08:38 PM
owning demand is trading owners value control for frequent offers and a more stable value overall
owning rares is trading stability for potential control


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blobfalls is not online. blobfalls
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14 Mar 2017 08:38 PM
But if only owners were allowed to value items then what's to stop from bias inflation
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Fishheart is online. Fishheart
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14 Mar 2017 08:38 PM
Yeah let's let idiots decide values because they own the item :)


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lINewYxrklI is not online. lINewYxrklI
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14 Mar 2017 08:39 PM
I could easily sayd DDH= 145k from one offer it got but I don't. It just depends what the item gets traded for on a daily basis so until someone actually accepts 100k on BSB or any other item perhaps BIB it will stay at 75-80k value.
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ninjapenguin23 is not online. ninjapenguin23
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14 Mar 2017 08:39 PM
Thats why i love low-stock items

They tend to raise at a fast pace and all the demand kids doubt it xddd

Then once they raise everyone's like "it cant go for blah to blah in a month, its impossible"

"it cant be blah rap and be blah value, impossible, sharks"





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