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Re: i want to vote out every republican

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Trig0n0metric is online. Trig0n0metric
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12 Mar 2017 04:25 PM
who supports trump's healthcare plan
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12 Mar 2017 04:27 PM
why do you think republicans elected you you brainless partisan monkeys die
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12 Mar 2017 04:29 PM
didn't the republican party promise to reform the ACA/obamacare, which is what this is doing?

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12 Mar 2017 04:32 PM
the lot of us wanted an entire repeal, with the replacement being the restructuring of our insurance system, by allowing insurance companies to insure across state lines. instead of having one or two insurance companies dictating over a state and creating a monopoly, we want a true free market healthcare system.
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12 Mar 2017 04:34 PM
thus, hopefully, lowering the costs of healthcare. the efficacy of the strategy is yet to be discovered, but it's worth a shot.
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12 Mar 2017 04:37 PM
There are a lot of problems with the ACA...


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12 Mar 2017 04:38 PM
"the efficacy of the strategy is yet to be discovered, "

"Man. Who would have ever thought health care was so complicated!! Lets just not have any plan until we find a fix"
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12 Mar 2017 04:39 PM
US healthcare was just fine without nationalization, you could argue it got worse with the introduction of the ACA.
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12 Mar 2017 04:40 PM
You voted him and now you have to deal with him and all of the stupid crap he does.

Meanwhile I'll just sit on my chair here in Canada and point and laugh at all of you.
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12 Mar 2017 04:41 PM
US healthcare was just fine without nationalization, you could argue it got worse with the introduction of the ACA.

i laughed
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TotallyNotCap is online. TotallyNotCap
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12 Mar 2017 04:41 PM
US healthcare has literally never been fine.

It was, is, and always will be a mess.
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12 Mar 2017 04:43 PM
this is precisely why i was so adamantly opposed to trump throughout the republican primaries. he's nothing but a moderate, who happened to strike a cord with the patriotic sect of the right.
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12 Mar 2017 04:44 PM
patriotic, conservative sect*
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12 Mar 2017 04:46 PM
and since establishment republicans are too damn partisan to see past their hypocrisy, they'll go along with whatever policies trump proposes that they would have opposed had obama proposed them.
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12 Mar 2017 04:49 PM
Man. This tread is ludicrous. Lol
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12 Mar 2017 04:50 PM
idk a lot about it but why hasn't the US adopted something more similar to Canadian medicare? All surveys show a satisfaction rate among Canadians >80%. is there a reason why canada's system wouldn't work in the US? do tell

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12 Mar 2017 04:51 PM
"idk a lot about it but why hasn't the US adopted something more similar to Canadian medicare? All surveys show a satisfaction rate among Canadians >80%. is there a reason why canada's system wouldn't work in the US? do tell"

because in canada once i meet my quota for lives saved i can walk out and take a yearlong vaca


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12 Mar 2017 04:52 PM
at this point, i'm almost willing to go to a system like that if the free market method doesn't pan out.
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12 Mar 2017 05:17 PM
I'll be damned if this turns into a Cassandra truth:

I'm all for some degree of free market but it's not a great idea to have minimal regulation for something as essential as healthcare or banking. The 2008 mini-depression can mainly be attributed to banks being allowed to run riot with mortgages and take a bunch of huge risks with them (and occasionally flat out lie to people) because of a lack of regulation. This led to a bunch of massive bank failures (including the largest in US history) which hadn't been seen since the late 1980s. There's actually an entire damn page on Wikipedia listing every American bank that has failed since 2008.

There's a lot worse that could happen if something as valuable to human lives as healthcare was regulated that leniently, considering some of the concerning practices and statistics associated with US healthcare in our current millenium. With the kind of funding and research put into healthcare already and the basically guaranteed result of unregulated/barely regulated corporations committing fraud and occasionally shocking degrees of flipping off the concept of basic morals, who's to say that they're not going to use those resources to create some sort of new disease, transmit it to the public (with potentially fatal results), and then charge extortionate prices for "special treatment" for said disease?
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12 Mar 2017 05:39 PM
While there's not a guarantee it won't happen, the likelihood of such an example as you have presented happening is slim-to-none. It's not any different than it is now, my ideal plan. The only difference is that insurance companies are not confined to regional territories, instead they can expand their coverage abroad, across the entire United States.

I was not advocating for massive deregulation of insurance companies. Perhaps I didn't communicate that point well.
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12 Mar 2017 05:43 PM
It's not any different than it was without the ACA, my ideal plan.(
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12 Mar 2017 05:45 PM
gotcha
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12 Mar 2017 05:52 PM
@Ani no one knows. Both systems have their pros and cons, but the public system is way better. It's just that American citizens haven't been exposed to many public services so they don't see the benefits in them... yet.


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