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Re: When clans get new bases

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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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05 Mar 2017 06:57 PM
They realize they don't know how to defend it very well and thus they end up losing a lot and decide the base is "too easy" to raid (which I don't see as a problem, but whatever,) so they either update it to the point where it's massively unfair or just scrap the base and go back to the previous base.

Just take the growing pains of a new base - you'll probably lose a lot before you learn the ropes - and keep on going with it. Doesn't really matter if you lose at your base if it isn't a war.


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Hare8901 is not online. Hare8901
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05 Mar 2017 06:58 PM
at least the new base probably actually works
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MilnariaII is not online. MilnariaII
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05 Mar 2017 06:58 PM
Aye a lot are uncomfortable with it.

-Holmes01
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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05 Mar 2017 06:58 PM
A-SOV released a new base last week that has been getting raided multiple times a day. Meanwhile nobody raids FWII and FC is still using technology from 4 years ago.


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Hare8901 is not online. Hare8901
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05 Mar 2017 07:00 PM
wow it only took you 2 years
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DesiredAnarchist is not online. DesiredAnarchist
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05 Mar 2017 07:00 PM
I don't understand why clans don't just make a new base, practice raid it with your own members for a week or two then open it to the public. That way people understand how to defend it, get used to the weapons, and understand the perspective of a raider.
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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05 Mar 2017 07:02 PM
I didn't have A-SOV practice raid our new base because I didn't want to be on a higher playing field than new raiders. It would give the impression that the base is unfair when in reality the defenders know how to defend and the raiders don't know how to raid yet.

Sub-par bait, Hare


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Cuilan is online. Cuilan
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05 Mar 2017 07:02 PM
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spIashes is not online. spIashes
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05 Mar 2017 07:03 PM
They realize they don't know how to defend it very well and thus they end up losing a lot and decide the base is "too easy" to raid (which I don't see as a problem, but whatever,) so they either update it to the point where it's massively unfair or just scrap the base and go back to the previous base.

Just take the growing pains of a new base - you'll probably lose a lot before you learn the ropes - and keep on going with it. Doesn't really matter if you lose at your base if it isn't a war.


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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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05 Mar 2017 07:03 PM
While we're on the topic Cuilan, I don't know who was responsible for Northern Gates being updated twice-a-week or weekly but that was my biggest grievance with the fort and I hope that doesn't transfer over to TCD's new base (which looks nice, btw.)


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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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05 Mar 2017 07:03 PM
I'll show you the ropes, splashes.


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Flurcium is not online. Flurcium
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05 Mar 2017 07:04 PM
They realize they don't know how to defend it very well and thus they end up losing a lot and decide the base is "too easy" to raid (which I don't see as a problem, but whatever,) so they either update it to the point where it's massively unfair or just scrap the base and go back to the previous base.

Just take the growing pains of a new base - you'll probably lose a lot before you learn the ropes - and keep on going with it. Doesn't really matter if you lose at your base if it isn't a war.


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Hare8901 is not online. Hare8901
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05 Mar 2017 07:05 PM
yeah why update your new base when you can just kick all raiders for 3 days straight
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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05 Mar 2017 07:06 PM
Why update your new base when you can just complain about an easy-to-raid base and pull out of a war because your clan is mediocre and can't win there while A-SOV can on the first try??


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05 Mar 2017 07:06 PM
They realize they don't know how to defend it very well and thus they end up losing a lot and decide the base is "too easy" to raid (which I don't see as a problem, but whatever,) so they either update it to the point where it's massively unfair or just scrap the base and go back to the previous base.

Just take the growing pains of a new base - you'll probably lose a lot before you learn the ropes - and keep on going with it. Doesn't really matter if you lose at your base if it isn't a war.


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Flurcium is not online. Flurcium
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05 Mar 2017 07:06 PM
yeah why update your new base when you can just shutdown the server for 3 days straight


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Hare8901 is not online. Hare8901
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05 Mar 2017 07:07 PM
what clan are you talking about
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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05 Mar 2017 07:08 PM
I'm talking about how FC was out-rallied, out-skilled, and out-raided by Resade. FC pulled out of the war Resade declared because Resade could win raid after raid on ## ### ## was too incompetent and inactive to keep up with Resade and win at Vale, which A-SOV did on the first try (that version, at least.) r+://290109653
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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05 Mar 2017 07:09 PM
raid on Frost Clan and Frost Clan was too incompetent


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Hare8901 is not online. Hare8901
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05 Mar 2017 07:09 PM
are you talking about tcd the clan that kept making changes to their base days after negotiations were settled
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Cuilan is online. Cuilan
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05 Mar 2017 07:09 PM
the changes i made slowly made NG to a 50% win/lose rate

hopefully the next map woundlt take to much time to reach that


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Hare8901 is not online. Hare8901
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05 Mar 2017 07:10 PM
oh we never actually pulled out of the resade war
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Cuilan is online. Cuilan
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05 Mar 2017 07:10 PM
and i make the changes (only me)

i have a really unbiased to both sides when it comes to map making


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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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05 Mar 2017 07:11 PM
Yeah I don't think it's a coincidence that most wars FC enters are unsuccessful or they pull out and most wars TCD does are successful.

OBVIOUSLY TCD was at fault, right??


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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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05 Mar 2017 07:11 PM
"oh we never actually pulled out of the resade war"

Yeah you did, FC was massively toxic on C&G whining about the Vale instead of learning how to raid properly. The "war" ended after FC realized they couldn't win there.


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