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Re: Seviro is one of the best clan leaders.

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Vatari is not online. Vatari
Joined: 09 Mar 2011
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15 Feb 2017 07:17 PM
His clan has been stable, and even when in-dev still could rally more than some clans.
ASOV's been stable and well rounded.

He's achieved taking a clan from nothing, and with the help of others rising it to top 5 easy. That's a feat most other clans don't have, most clans have been passed along, leader after leader.

He's level-headed, and runs a tight ship, but it's really efficient.

He's been an active and involved clan leader with ASOV, and genuinely loves the clan and community, and is willing to help out members in the clan.

He can shout and rally people in ASOV when no one else can. (Personal experience here)

He's one of the few who kinda started low in terms of relevance and now he's up there.

If you're going to disagree on this thread then actually give reasons/arguments.
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copacetic is not online. copacetic
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15 Feb 2017 07:18 PM
Agreed ​​ ​ ​​​​​​
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Loveydovy is not online. Loveydovy
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15 Feb 2017 07:18 PM
i smell a good quality copypasta
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HellStrikers is not online. HellStrikers
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15 Feb 2017 07:18 PM
He, he is beast at leading and eating Chipotle

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zman250 is not online. zman250
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15 Feb 2017 07:18 PM
"rising it to top 5 easy."
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LOL


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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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15 Feb 2017 07:18 PM
No, Vatari, stop being toxic! #############################################
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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15 Feb 2017 07:19 PM
A-SOV is a top 5 clan, Zman. Sorry if you're upset because you're in RAA.


https://www.roblox.com/sev3-item?id=290109654
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P_URGED is not online. P_URGED
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15 Feb 2017 07:20 PM
If he's the only one who is able to shout and rally people in A-SOV, then he's failed in setting up a properly functioning group.

A good group should be able to do things without the leader being present/online. I'm referring to your statement: "He can shout and rally people in ASOV when no one else can. (Personal experience here)".


#code Confidence is silent. Ignorance is loud.
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zman250 is not online. zman250
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15 Feb 2017 07:20 PM
"A-SOV is a top 5 clan"
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hahahaha stop it ur killing me


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Yuuri_Wakasa is not online. Yuuri_Wakasa
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15 Feb 2017 07:20 PM
I disagree with you in one point

he is not level headed at all he gets mad at you for constructive criticism

>tfw when blocked for that reason
>tfw when refuting his arguments he replies to "xd lol fc memember mad blocked" and baits
>tfw when ignored and im the "toxic" one

I have no issue with asov but if you're going to talk about flaws of a person i don't think it's valid to merge it with asov because it just leaves that one stain on the clan that could

https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=206813460


In the words of the true level headed leader
https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=206810753
https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=206809084


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zman250 is not online. zman250
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15 Feb 2017 07:21 PM
i still think you're a good clan leader

just don't think a-sov is top five


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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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15 Feb 2017 07:21 PM
I think you misinterpret that sentence, Purged. Other people can rally people in A-SOV, I just have more luck in doing so. That applies to every clan, really.


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P_URGED is not online. P_URGED
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15 Feb 2017 07:21 PM
I have no personal quarrel with Seviro, purely giving my input here.


#code Confidence is silent. Ignorance is loud.
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Heydude261 is not online. Heydude261
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15 Feb 2017 07:21 PM
I certainly can't really call him level-headed considering all the drama that comes out of A-SOV and based on his numerous forum posts

Yes, A-SOV was a nice accomplishment and I won't refute that - but what makes a clan good is its ability to run itself
The fact that he hosts or co-hosts most of the events in his group shows that his clan isn't truly sustainable in the long run without him

The fact that people only come to his rallies only proves that people rally around a person, not a clan
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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15 Feb 2017 07:21 PM
I appreciate the opinion, zman. #############################################
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P_URGED is not online. P_URGED
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15 Feb 2017 07:21 PM
Oh, I see. Fair enough.


#code Confidence is silent. Ignorance is loud.
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Yuuri_Wakasa is not online. Yuuri_Wakasa
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15 Feb 2017 07:22 PM
"I have no issue with asov but if you're going to talk about flaws of a person i don't think it's valid to merge it with asov because it just leaves that one stain on the clan that could... be something really good but it keeps being shunned because of seviro's constant toxicity on the forums


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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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15 Feb 2017 07:23 PM
"He co-hosts a lot of events with his officers? Unsustainable."

Terrible argument.


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Vatari is not online. Vatari
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15 Feb 2017 07:24 PM
I think Seviro is level headed.

Have you seen him argue/dispute on C&G? He has a consensus and backing points. Regardless if it's bait or not, I'm not saying "Seviro isn't hot-headed" but he is level-headed.

What he says generally makes sense..

#VatariIsToxic
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RefugeeZ is not online. RefugeeZ
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15 Feb 2017 07:25 PM
omg so toxic
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Heydude261 is not online. Heydude261
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15 Feb 2017 07:25 PM
It's when you don't agree with Seviro that he goes out with the personal insults, ad hominems, and terrible deflections/spins

I mean at least Kellyanne does it so you don't notice until you get there
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Yuuri_Wakasa is not online. Yuuri_Wakasa
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15 Feb 2017 07:25 PM
Vatari did you by any chance read what i typed?


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Flaminquo is online. Flaminquo
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15 Feb 2017 07:25 PM
asov isnt bad idk why people try to say it is

but w/e


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Yuuri_Wakasa is not online. Yuuri_Wakasa
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15 Feb 2017 07:27 PM
Yea I don't have an issue with ASOV it's mostly seviro who brings that bad rep to his clan by promoting bait stuff on forums and then trying to justify it by "cant fight toxic w/o being toxic myself, but im not toxic guys so its okay."


??????


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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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15 Feb 2017 07:27 PM
I argue legitimate points. I see no reason to do so when the argument itself is ad hominem or irrelevant to the case, or when arguing the point is fruitless.


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