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Re: If america went to war on russia they would be crushed

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qsawz is not online. qsawz
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07 Feb 2017 11:38 PM
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07 Feb 2017 11:39 PM
You can hold your opinion as you like.


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Zerkius is not online. Zerkius
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07 Feb 2017 11:40 PM
America outguns Russia in pretty much every way I'm sure.
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07 Feb 2017 11:43 PM
@zek... .False

United States holds on to the most powerful naval forces in the world.

Aside from that, our army is number two tank and ballistic wise.

Our special forces, such as Rangers, Airborne, and Seals are top of the top, coming second would maybe be MI6 or GIGN

Our Air Force holds many pilots, but Russia is larger I do believe.


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qsawz is not online. qsawz
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07 Feb 2017 11:43 PM
not in armoired vehicles
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07 Feb 2017 11:45 PM
Here goes..

US vs Russia, Iran, China, etc. etc. etc. etc.


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07 Feb 2017 11:45 PM
Thats What I just stated qsawz.


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Zerkius is not online. Zerkius
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We have more nuclear weapons. I read somewhere that the United States has # total of 11 nuclear aircraft carriers or something and the rest of the world only has 3.
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07 Feb 2017 11:46 PM
Aye, but the russian T-14 Armatos is practically # generation ahead of the Abrams. Around 2000mm equivilent of RHA. and I think another 900 equivilent ontop of that.
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Nukes are a waste of energy lol.
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07 Feb 2017 11:47 PM
Actually, it would be

United Nations,

United States
United Kingdom
France
Germany
Greece
India
Italy
Isreal
Japan

VS

Russia... who holds no real alliances around them.


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07 Feb 2017 11:47 PM
Not if they blow up an entire country (:
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07 Feb 2017 11:49 PM
Nuclear Warfare is unlikely.

If both Russia and US launched multiple dirty Bombs, the world could just implode upon itself.


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07 Feb 2017 11:57 PM
"@zek... .False

United States holds on to the most powerful naval forces in the world.

Aside from that, our army is number two tank and ballistic wise.

Our special forces, such as Rangers, Airborne, and Seals are top of the top, coming second would maybe be MI6 or GIGN

Our Air Force holds many pilots, but Russia is larger I do believe."

No they aren't, the U.S. has the largest air force in the world - the second largest air force is part of the U.S. navy

Also pretty sure we have the best tanks too.
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qsawz is not online. qsawz
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07 Feb 2017 11:58 PM
The T-14 is sifnificantly better than the M1A2 the Abrams would be crushed by the T-14 easily.
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08 Feb 2017 12:00 AM
t-14 is pretty sick, however the Abrams needs to be replaced.


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08 Feb 2017 12:00 AM
The U.S. is the ONLY nation in the world with massive force-projection capabilities.

Our Air Force is the largest in the world. Second largest in the world? Our Navy. Yes, our own Navy possesses the second largest Air Force in the world on its own.

That's not to mention the fact that it's the largest Navy in the world.

The US possesses more carriers than the rest of the world combined. We also have more experience when it comes to both conventional and unconventional warfare than Russia does at the present time ( although both of the Chechen Wars granted them a fair deal of experience, just nowhere near the amount that the War on Terror has for our Armed Forces. )

Russia INVADING the U.S. is out of the question. It's absolutely impossible. You can't invade the U.S. Their best offense would be their defense. They'd have to hope that they can somehow outlast the might of the entire U.S. Armed Forces ( what you've seen in recent military conflicts is a FRACTION of what the U.S. would be capable of in a war with Russia ) and there's no single nation on Earth that can do that.

U.S. wins. The only way they don't win is if Russia uses their entire nuclear arsenal, in which case, nobody wins.
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08 Feb 2017 12:01 AM
Were still in the cold war people ! And no, the US would win. We outgun them, and have far far more advanced technology then them. We are the worlds only super power, who have the secure and substantial naval, air force, and infantry presence.


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DystraTala is online. DystraTala
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08 Feb 2017 12:01 AM
The T-14 falls short of the Abrams. It has too many mechanical issues.

The Abrams is the best MBT in the world.
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08 Feb 2017 12:03 AM
the US would be able to beat russia initially, but trying to keep such a large territory under control would be a logistical nightmare


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BeartheMLGpro is not online. BeartheMLGpro
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08 Feb 2017 12:03 AM
Ehhh Dystra, not too sure... but I am not a tank person.

I plan on going to Naval Intelligence, so I don't really do much research on Tanks or such.


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08 Feb 2017 12:04 AM
That's another important thing. The U.S. could easily conquer Russia and destroy its capacity to wage war. However, occupying Russian soil for any significant period of time would result in an insurgency that would dwarf the likes of Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam.. etc
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08 Feb 2017 12:06 AM
There's very few modern tanks that are as battle-tested as the Abrams. Those that have seen even close to the same amount of combat cannot be produced in the same numbers as Abrams can ( Challenger, Merkava, Leopard, etc ) because the U.S. is an industrial powerhouse and no other nation can compete with it in that regard
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BeartheMLGpro is not online. BeartheMLGpro
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08 Feb 2017 12:07 AM
Honestly, I do believe that if Russia were to loose a war, Russia would no longer be a thing.

I believe that the powers of Europe would push for it to be divided into smaller countries, like the Ottoman Empire was, along with Germany.


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08 Feb 2017 12:09 AM
No they aren't, the U.S. has the largest air force in the world - the second largest air force is part of the U.S. navy
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