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Re: Make FE not necessary

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mactireamaithte is not online. mactireamaithte
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02 Feb 2017 07:11 AM
too many games are going down ffs
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hajimeme is not online. hajimeme
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02 Feb 2017 07:11 AM
yeah its like a fall out boy song on roblox right now (sugar we're goin down)


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HarrySnotte is not online. HarrySnotte
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02 Feb 2017 07:15 AM
All good games already use FE. FE opens a lot of opportunities and I don't see why this shouldn't be obliged. After all, FE games are a lot more safe.
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mactireamaithte is not online. mactireamaithte
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02 Feb 2017 07:16 AM
@HarrySnotte
What opportunities?
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HarrySnotte is not online. HarrySnotte
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02 Feb 2017 07:19 AM
The ability to have stuff run separatly on the client/server, which can make a huge deal when it comes to performance. You can also make it so stuff is only visible for one player. And it closes a wide security gap.

I've been turning on FE by default for years now, it's just the best way to make something.
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mactireamaithte is not online. mactireamaithte
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02 Feb 2017 07:20 AM
@HarrySnotte
"which can make a huge deal when it comes to performance"
Yes, it lags you
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hajimeme is not online. hajimeme
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02 Feb 2017 07:21 AM
"all good games already use FE"
now that's a tricky statement. the idea of a 'good game' is subjective. to me, it's a rping game, but to some it's a fps. it doesn't matter how much scripting is put into the game. there is equal opportunity between FE games and non-FE games. there's no point in forcing people to put something in, just like there's no point in having over 200 friends just because to some people it's unnecessary.


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hajimeme is not online. hajimeme
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02 Feb 2017 07:22 AM
roblox has gotten alot slower for me since FE was forced


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hajimeme is not online. hajimeme
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02 Feb 2017 07:23 AM
i don't see why you can't just have it as an option again. not all players want this forced upon themselves (just like some don't enjoy the friends/followers update, but that's kind of old news.)


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mactireamaithte is not online. mactireamaithte
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02 Feb 2017 07:24 AM
@hajimeme
its slower to me too
I think this shouldnt be necessary
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HarrySnotte is not online. HarrySnotte
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02 Feb 2017 07:25 AM
FE doesn't lag you. That's a common myth that everyone just blindly believes. Why would limiting the amount of data sent to the server slow it down??? You send less information, you don't send it slower. And with FE there is no confusion for what should be calculated by the client and by the server, you can clearly separate them, which will make it less laggy.

Also, when I say "good game", I really mean a well scripted game here, whether or not it's enjoyable. And you can do everything with FE that you can do without FE, but not the other way around, FE is just the superior way of making a game.
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iChairman is not online. iChairman
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02 Feb 2017 07:26 AM
bump
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hajimeme is not online. hajimeme
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02 Feb 2017 07:28 AM
or you could just not have FE if you don't want it


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hajimeme is not online. hajimeme
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02 Feb 2017 07:29 AM
why does it hurt you if a player like me or mactireamaithte don't want FE? that's our personal choice


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mactireamaithte is not online. mactireamaithte
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02 Feb 2017 07:30 AM
Anyways, just throwing this here:
My favorite game was REMOVED because the creator didnt activate FE
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HarrySnotte is not online. HarrySnotte
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02 Feb 2017 07:59 AM
It hurts because non FE games are games that are most likely going to be exploited. And as I said earlier, the performance could be improved.

And no games are being taken down, they just become unavailable for players who aren't 13 or older. And it's not like developers didn't have a chance to update their game... Roblox has been encouraging FE since the day it was released.
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mactireamaithte is not online. mactireamaithte
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02 Feb 2017 05:46 PM
@HarrySnotte
There is a way to fight exploiters with scripts

"And no games are being taken down"
OOOOF COUUUURSEEEEE
https://www.roblox.com/games/27428457/AWAKENING-STAR-WARS-RP-Patch-1-2-89
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HarrySnotte is not online. HarrySnotte
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02 Feb 2017 11:02 PM
None of those scripts have ever worked against all exploits. And you might not see some games anymore because you're not over 13. Or because the creator has put it offline for a moment to update it to FE.
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popit123doe is online. popit123doe
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02 Feb 2017 11:23 PM
I am pretty sure that iron is necessary for us humans to live. It is a valuable nutrient.
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HarrySnotte is not online. HarrySnotte
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02 Feb 2017 11:26 PM
Oh and that star wars game is not taken down because of FE, it's taken down because it doesn't follow the new stringfilter rules.
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Udoxas is not online. Udoxas
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03 Feb 2017 12:33 AM
FE is not necessary unless you want players under 13 to be able to play your game (and this isn't even in place yet.) It's the filtering rules.
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ColdDeveloper is online. ColdDeveloper
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03 Feb 2017 02:15 AM
If you don't use FE you deserve no visits.


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