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Re: Clothing copying NEEDS to be stopped.

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K_Ts is not online. K_Ts
Joined: 19 May 2015
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29 Jan 2017 11:09 AM
For everyone's sake here. Especially for us, designers, sake.

First of all, I will admit I copied clothing too before. I did. It was how I started designing my own clothing. Most of us had that path.
I'd like to note that, in that copying I did, all the pathetic, lowball copying (which I didn't have the idea how awful it is, before) that I never, repeating NEVER placed MY OWN NAME under the shirt/pants I uploaded and took from someone else's inventory. NEVER. I never blanked the templates of the original creators, just took, saved, uploaded, added up my tags later. NEVER wrote my name as a false claims on someone else's work. I know it still does not approve my copying because it was not right, but I wouldn't feel good if I had put my name under something I never made. Never had skills to make.

Anyways, so that continued for about half a year, every once in a while I'd upload something. But then, I just stopped. Gave up. Found that not much of a fun. I downloaded pa#########nd, oh well, tried to make something on my own. See how it works. Thinking, maybe I can make something decent-looking.
And oh well, here I am, today, designing 5 months now without even looking for ideas in other designer's inventories because I am so full of ideas that I can't even manage to do all those myself, with my limited time.

My point is, I started making many sales on my own designs. I started earning large amounts of robux on my creations.

Soon after, I came across an inconvenient problem which turned me back onto my past, the bad one before I regretted copying and stealing. I found some users who had stole not only mine, but also my dear friend's designs. Not only stole our designs, but also added their own names underneath them, some of them had even copied whole descriptions which those designers made on their own. All claiming to be their own work.

I don't approve myself of stealing before, I never will and I am aware of what I have done, mostly the best aware when I saw this. What hurts the most was the non-legit credits giving to themselves for someone else's work, which is really low and I got no words for that. I still do not say or approve that what I did was good. Not at all. I am guilty, actually, as I stopped, I was guilty for that.

I realised my mistakes when I saw someone else's same mistake I did before. Only without some elements such as unrightful credits giving.

Never in my ROBLOX time I felt so sorry and bad for what I was doing before. Nor I ever will.

ROBLOX needs to find a way to stop this. Anyhow. There are ways, there are methods, they just need to make it happen already.

Now I am one of those who can say that they know how it feels when someone takes your long worked and hours spent time on designs which are part of your creative mind.

After I look back, I am proud of myself that I never wrote my name under those designs I uploaded in my inventory, I am proud that I stopped and most of all, I am proud that I am here right now, writing all of this to you, fellow ROBLOX-ians, to have a partial, little vision of how things mostly function for us, designers.

I hope I can still be called a designer, no matter what I did before and ended.
I hope ROBLOX can help us all fix this somehow, because in our original designs lies our skills to manipulate paint.net, our talent, our mind, creativity, our thoughts.

Our designs are something that really shows who we really are, resemble us in a way.

I couldn't say or think this before but - imagine how it feels like when someone tries to copy YOU, your thoughts, talent, mind, creativity.

I may not be eligible to say that but, here I am, changed towards what I did before and, of course, hoping for the better ROBLOX designers & creators future.

Ourselves matter, our own creations, skills. They are to share, to show, to inspire others, not to copy without a blink and say 'I made this'. No. Totally wrong.

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I'd like also to state something someone thought won't be possible or revealed.

There are some names I have to mention here.

Firstly, FrutilIa, boy_bye & Makaoi who so much inspire me to keep on designing no matter what happens. Also, these dear friends and ROBLOX-ians are also filled with great talent for designing and creating virtual attire.

We all had different paths before we started designing. Some of them are like mine, some aren't.

I had a pleasure to have met them.

And last mention goes to Oxtails & TheAestheticTiger, two fellow ROBLOX-ians who we recently discovered to mass copy other's designs (mine and my friends listed above), not only that, but also write their names underneath them, copy our descriptions whole and call themselves a 'designer', which, I think, none of us who copied before, called ourselves like that, because of the shame we had towards what we did.
Removing original designer's templates, name watermarks on clothing, adding up your own names even though everyone saw who actually made it.

I'd just like to call out these two fellow ROBLOX-ians to proove they really made it, anyhow? Original designers, who first uploaded those, have a 'Date uploaded' / not 'updated'!!!, in Develop section. Thats proof 1. Proof 2 would be simply just trying to make an item we made, even a more complicated one which took some of us literally hours to make. Or record doing so.

Since neither one of these proofs can be accomplished, I'll just leave my prayers that you open your eyes like others, even me, did, and to learn to handle and manipulate paint.net as an easy programme as that, and share your own creativity among the community. Or at least do a mistake I did - copy, steal BUT do not shamelessly write a name underneath it that doesn't fit and deserve its place there. Don't wrongfully credit.

Have a nice day and many luck in designing,

ROBLOX 2017 Designers


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SWISHSWASHSWASH is not online. SWISHSWASHSWASH
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29 Jan 2017 11:11 AM
Nah no support on that one
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K_Ts is not online. K_Ts
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29 Jan 2017 11:11 AM
Tags are = paint . net


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K_Ts is not online. K_Ts
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29 Jan 2017 11:11 AM
aw camon, ya didn't even read my thoughts. not approved.


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SWISHSWASHSWASH is not online. SWISHSWASHSWASH
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29 Jan 2017 11:13 AM
That was a joke what i said lol
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K_Ts is not online. K_Ts
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29 Jan 2017 11:16 AM
nothing.


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DefineDarkk is not online. DefineDarkk
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29 Jan 2017 11:20 AM
I very much agree with this.Hopefully this issue can be solved.


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ReaperMagic is not online. ReaperMagic
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29 Jan 2017 11:27 AM
i don't support without even reading this because the easiest way to copy clothing is basically unpatchable


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HaleyBernal is not online. HaleyBernal
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29 Jan 2017 11:28 AM
i agree with this and support this :)
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K_Ts is not online. K_Ts
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29 Jan 2017 11:31 AM
I wouldn't agree that it's unpatchable because there is ALWAYS a way to do something, in this world of programming and technology. Noone can tell me there isn't a way because there is. It's just the matter of will someone agree to deal with the problem. They said for lots of stuff and problems 'this cannot be fixed', but the problem is more in their will to help us and make it better. Noone can't tell me there isn't a way to fix it. Because smart ones know there is.


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FrutilIa is not online. FrutilIa
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29 Jan 2017 11:32 AM
AGREE-

Ok thank you very much for this is true- the same thing goes towards me, i used to copy then realized it was unfair so i stopped completely. I hope these two girls stop.


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K_Ts is not online. K_Ts
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29 Jan 2017 11:34 AM
Besides, it's almost the same as if you told me 'exploits cannot be patched' or 'exploits cannot be used in games on ROBLOX' because it's not true. It's the opposite of that, so it is with 'copying cannot be patched'.


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Extuls is online. Extuls
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29 Jan 2017 11:35 AM
I skimmed through it and can't find the actual suggestion.

I'm not saying copying shouldn't be stopped, just, where in the post is the suggestion so I can read that part?


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mi_as is not online. mi_as
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29 Jan 2017 11:43 AM
AW, I agree. It needs to stop. It is extremely rude.
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K_Ts is not online. K_Ts
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29 Jan 2017 11:50 AM
The general suggestion is actually to have something, anything done. Even enable users to decide to copylock their own designs, as it is possible with games already - so there is a solution. Games are designs too, user's products, time and effort. Same goes to clothing, not as much as games, but there still is some. There is a way, certainly. I've read Makaoi's post 2 days ago and she suggested copylocking aswell. Possible, but will they do it ever?


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Extuls is online. Extuls
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29 Jan 2017 11:55 AM
You have to explain how it's possible.

ROBLOX has already done some things to prevent copying. One thing is that they made downloaded high quality versions of assets a tougher process. Fixing or preventing this isn't as easy as you may think.

You need to propose an actual idea on how to prevent it. They already know this is an issue.


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FrutilIa is not online. FrutilIa
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29 Jan 2017 11:57 AM
maybe not allow other users to see the template?


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Extuls is online. Extuls
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29 Jan 2017 12:00 PM
Wouldn't be a perfect fix as there'd still be ways to grab the file, but it would be something at least, unless I'm not seeing a flaw.


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boy_bye is not online. boy_bye
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29 Jan 2017 12:15 PM
Support -

All our effort goes to waste, & sometimes the people who re-create make more profit then the original owner. This is like stealing money in real lmao.
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HalfPinky456 is not online. HalfPinky456
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29 Jan 2017 12:18 PM
roblox has to let others look at the clothing template, because to use the a Shirt item in development, you need the template ID so it works properly

that's why clothing copying is nearly unpatchable
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pjthesoviet is not online. pjthesoviet
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29 Jan 2017 12:21 PM
1. It's unpatchable

2. you didnt even tell us how it should be fixed

3. ur just saying ur emotions like everyone should care but honestly who does?

4. this is irrelevant in many ways

5. get out

~pj
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SWISHSWASHSWASH is not online. SWISHSWASHSWASH
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29 Jan 2017 12:57 PM
I agree with pj
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XeSonic is not online. XeSonic
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29 Jan 2017 12:58 PM
I passed all over it because it's ########### and there should be a copyright ##### or something :P It's that ###### ###### ##### minus # ##### right?
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CimpTank is not online. CimpTank
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29 Jan 2017 01:01 PM
After reading what you had to say, I support you. Nice work.


Everything happens for a reason.
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K_Ts is not online. K_Ts
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29 Jan 2017 01:40 PM
Thanks, Cimp.

Extuls, I need to quote somethin: ''They already know this is an issue.''.
They do know it's an issue. Yet noone even thinks of a way to start doing anything to solve it. Which is frustrating.


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