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Re: @falsewarrior Capitalism works

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Frosteus is not online. Frosteus
Joined: 21 Dec 2013
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28 Jan 2017 07:33 PM
ik its hard for u to understand this,


but without competition of the free marketplace, u wuldnt be using a computer






we landed on the moon in less than a decade simply because russia was competing with us


at the end of the day






ur dum
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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28 Jan 2017 07:37 PM
I have more problems with exploitative capitalism than I do the typical fare, wherein competing businesses serve to benefit the consumer. This type of competition DOES NOT exist for pharmaceutical companies holding patents for ######
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Pokemonpro21 is online. Pokemonpro21
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28 Jan 2017 07:37 PM
Must crush ############
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Frosteus is not online. Frosteus
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28 Jan 2017 07:39 PM
Ok, well idk if you knew this


But that medicine was barely profitable AFTER the increase




so ANSWER this

and dont ignore this question cuz u like to do that:


If something isn't profitable, who will produce it?



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Frosteus is not online. Frosteus
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28 Jan 2017 07:41 PM
stop thinking with ur heart and use ur brain...ok?!?!?! :]
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MoneyFolder is not online. MoneyFolder
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28 Jan 2017 07:41 PM
wew

people here actually think capitalism doesnt work
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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28 Jan 2017 07:41 PM
It was being produced well before Shrekli purchased rights to the medication; in fact he did so simply because he believed he could make a huge profit on the medicine.

In my opinion, he probably shouldn't have bothered to even touch daraprim. I have no sympathy for his financial troubles as a result of it.
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Frosteus is not online. Frosteus
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28 Jan 2017 07:45 PM
FIRST OFF YOU DIDNT ANSWER MY QUESTION XDDDDD



Regarding your statement about it being produced:




It was until Shkreli bought the patent to the USA that it became widely produced,


Anyone can make a medicine like that, but they don't, WHY?!?!?! because the cost of research wouldn't be worth it.


Obviously money backed up the price increase....you wouldnt even have advl if it wern't for people like shkreli

so honestly, stop neglecting the basic facts





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Frosteus is not online. Frosteus
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28 Jan 2017 07:45 PM
ANSWER THE QUESTION LMAOOOOO XDDD


Mr "I'm not sidestepping your arguments"
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Frosteus is not online. Frosteus
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28 Jan 2017 07:48 PM
ANSWER THE QUESTION[3]
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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28 Jan 2017 07:49 PM
If something isn't profitable, I don't assume people would produce it. THAT BEING SAID, the price jump in daraprim came from the insanely high price Turing paid for exclusive rights to market the formulation. Again, I have no sympathy for his financial hardships and feel inclined to remind you that there are people out there making these compounds for less than their market price. Heck, it only takes ~20 USD to synthesize ############## the primary ingredient in daraprim.
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Frosteus is not online. Frosteus
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28 Jan 2017 07:50 PM
In my opinion, he's a hero


If it wern't for him, people's lives would be at stake
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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28 Jan 2017 07:52 PM
In my opinion, he's a villain who put people's lives at stake.
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Frosteus is not online. Frosteus
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28 Jan 2017 07:54 PM
How did he put people's lives at stake...




He has offered it for FREE to anyone who contacts him regarding the price


btw healthcare


so when us ay '750usd'

ur misleading ppl into believing the sick ppl pay 750 usd
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VirtualDogg is not online. VirtualDogg
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28 Jan 2017 07:55 PM
My uncle has to take a bus to Canada to buy this stuff now

It's literally cheaper to get to Canada and buy it and then come all the way back than to buy it in America

He saves like 75% of money he would have to spend it on here in the Us
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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28 Jan 2017 07:57 PM
The bill itself is 750 USD; I don't know what copays individual insurance companies have with respect to daraprim. According to CNN, it cost ~375 USD out of pocket for patients in the USA on average. 20% copayments paid 150 USD.
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Frosteus is not online. Frosteus
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28 Jan 2017 08:00 PM
My uncle has to take a bus to Canada to buy this stuff now


you need a perscription to buy it.....


im assuming your uncle doesnt have health care if he cant afford it?





either ur lying or mfg ur a new level of dum
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Frosteus is not online. Frosteus
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28 Jan 2017 08:00 PM
idk the copays either, tried to find that number




but cnn is such a bad source..plz dont cite them...ever
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Frosteus is not online. Frosteus
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28 Jan 2017 08:01 PM
jk, found it

9d2a5e008e6492aef4f2e0d5fdbee18c



less than 10 usd

XD
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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28 Jan 2017 08:01 PM
You know of American insurance companies offering a 0% copay? If not, then you'd still be paying more with a ~1% copay (7.5 USD) than you would in the UK, Australia, or Canada.
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Bryce200 is not online. Bryce200
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28 Jan 2017 08:03 PM
Capitalism is the only system that has ever work

The problems we are having today come from too much government overreach


~Never forget Allocated's Pharmacy
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Frosteus is not online. Frosteus
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28 Jan 2017 08:04 PM
if ur uninsured and poor, its free


XD



so with that being said, how is shkreli immoral?


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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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28 Jan 2017 08:04 PM
I don't want the unfettered capitalism that gave rise to the Gilded Age, sir.
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Frosteus is not online. Frosteus
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28 Jan 2017 08:05 PM
if ur uninsured and poor, its free


XD



so with that being said, how is shkreli immoral?[2]
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Bryce200 is not online. Bryce200
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28 Jan 2017 08:05 PM
The one that doubled average income of the US worker in just 30 years?


~Never forget Allocated's Pharmacy
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