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| 20 Jan 2017 11:55 PM |
sLATE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V2sBURgUBI |
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Slylft
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| 20 Jan 2017 11:56 PM |
| you just read my thread, buddy |
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form2275
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| 20 Jan 2017 11:57 PM |
Christianity is a disease on its way to extinction. Don't glorify something that is responsible for countless deaths.
How hard is it to just be a good person without being threatened by eternal suffering? |
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Slylft
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| 20 Jan 2017 11:59 PM |
yeah because some war in the 1300s
look at your calendar
it's not 1300s |
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| 21 Jan 2017 12:00 AM |
The Christian concept of salvation is an immoral one.
Before I tell you why, let’s set the scene. Christianity teaches humanity is doomed to go to Hell where the god Yahweh will do Very Bad Things to them, forever, why is humanity doomed? Well, apparently, Yahweh did a product launch - Humans 1.0 - without doing adequate beta-testing. His product didn’t function quite like he wanted it to. A skeptical talking snake proved more persuasive than an all-powerful deity, and so the prototypical couple snacked their way into the bad graces of their Sky Daddy. Rather than acknowledging his own incompetence, the Loving Creator instead cursed humans with painful childbirth, male domination of women, and a difficult life, ending in death. No second chance and no appeal process. One strike, you’re out. It’s all there in Genesis 3, if you need more details.
As Christians put it, Adam and Eve sinned. Sin consists of making Yahweh feel bad by not treating him like the super-important Being that he is, and by not doing things exactly as he orders you to. If you hurt the deity’s feelings, you will force him to do Bad Stuff which he can’t be held responsible for . Stuff like creating a fiery torture chamber where he can supernaturally keep people alive, while torturing them for eternity.
This is one of the truly great miracles of Christianity which has not received the attention it deserves: that a god can be completely loving, while simultaneously being a wildly enthusiastic sadist. One of the many benefits of being a god is that you get to play by different rules than human beings, and you have the power to defy logic and reason. Now here is the really cool part. Even though this god is angry with us, and would be completely justified in inflicting the most horrible suffering on us, he is willing to cut us some slack, through the magic of SALVATION!
The explanation is a rather convoluted story of a prgnent virgin, an immortal god who dies for several days, and human sacrifice… but let me just cut to the chase, all is forgiven if you swear your loyalty to Jesus – the authorized representative of the Angry One. That’s it. ### the ring of the king. Pledge your undying loyalty. Plsure him by stroking his ego. If you do this, you’re off his sh-list my friend, the most amazing thing about this? It doesn’t matter if you have done horrible heinous stuff to your fellow human beings. Child abose. Torture. Rap. Murder. Gencide. doesn’t matter. Because let’s be honest. Don’t those things pale in comparison to the crime of hurting God’s self esteem?
If you’re a careful student of the Bible, it should be pretty clear that what happens to humans isn’t thatimportant. It’s all about Him! Think of us as useful props that he can arrange like figurines on a game board. Our main value is as mirrors that he can lovingly gaze upon his own reflection in. If we aren’t doing our job, how can he properly enjoy himself? Okay. So that is the sin and salvation story, as told by Christianity. Confess Jesus as Lord so that God can stop being angry with you, and won’t have to torture you forever. Repent from trying to think for yourself and for doing things your way. On bended knee, surrender your mind to the Dear Leader.
The implications of this ‘salvation’ are where the immorality comes into play. Let’s do a thought experiment:
If Htler had accepted Jesus as Lord in his dying moments, then according to Christianity, he is now in Heaven, while the Christ-less Jewish victims of his regime are destined for the eternal fires of damnation. Htler’s ovens only burned a short while, but the fiery torments designed by the Christian god will blaze forever. Or, how about this? Cannibalistic killer Jeffrey Daher repented and was baptized in prison, shortly before his death. So that would mean that he is now enjoying the joys of heaven, while the gy young men he killed and will suffer the torments of Hell. Does this make any sense? How can we regard this as anything but a perverse mockery of justice?
I know, I know. Christians will complain “You can’t evaluate God by human standards. Who are you to pass judgment on God?” My reply? Stop calling your god good and loving and moral, if you are going to insist that those words suddenly lose their everyday meaning, or indeed, mean the opposite, when applied to the corrupt sadist your worship.
The only reason you don’t want to use human morality when evaluating the god depicted in the Bible is because his actions reveal him to be an immoral monster. |
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| 21 Jan 2017 12:02 AM |
Morality is not derived form religion, it precedes it.
If you require a magical sky daddy to know right from wrong you cannot be considered a moral individual.
Furthermore there is nothing in the Bible that is morally superior to secular morality, no moral teachings, no ethical teachings, nothing. |
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| 21 Jan 2017 12:03 AM |
look buddy,I am from Germany and I will tell this I feel proud of america. we have decided to make sure that you have the power to change your country. inauguration speech was the best. Godspeed President Donald Trump.
you atheist ego manics are very grating, you'll defend theoretical science of which you understand zero, but will jump on the religious bashing ego bandwagon while being a complete waste of matter to the human race.
you pat yourselves on the back as if you're educated, because ypu know all about atheism, or how to point out faults in others, including in religions, but you don't do anything for anybody, whereas a lot religious organizations or charities, are the first on the scene, when people need help!!! All you see is the few that get rich off religion, but don't notice many that quietly help their fellow men!!! And anti fascist protestors also got the filthiest mouths around, and anytime they're confronted, they become violent!!! |
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| 21 Jan 2017 12:05 AM |
if you are so threatened by the word God and people's belief in God, then you should move to a country where communism is the religion.
also thanks for the big copy/paste wall |
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| 21 Jan 2017 12:06 AM |
Atheists per capita donate more to charity then Christians.
Atheists per capita are more educated then Christians.
Atheists per capita commit less crimes then Christians.
Atheists per capita have higher income then Christians.
Atheists per capita have a better understanding of the Bible then Christians.
I can go on and on, and I do believe I've made my point, there is nothing good about Christianity, it doesn't improve anyone. |
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| 21 Jan 2017 12:08 AM |
Your statements are nonsensical drivel without a coherent thought in them.
Care to start providing arguments? or is that beyond you? |
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| 21 Jan 2017 12:09 AM |
"atheists made up 3.1% and agnostics made up 4% of the US population."
source: wikipedia
oh so you're telling me 3.1 percent of the population does all that
when
"70.6% of the American population identified themselves as Christians"
source: wikipedia
i call bs on your stats |
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| 21 Jan 2017 12:11 AM |
| Source? Pew research for most of them. |
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| 21 Jan 2017 12:11 AM |
"Atheists per capita have a better understanding of the Bible then Christians"
why spend so much time? it shouldn't be important to them, they're not religious |
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| 21 Jan 2017 12:11 AM |
| Do you not understand what per capita means? |
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| 21 Jan 2017 12:13 AM |
| Why? Because it's an important piece of literature which has influenced 2,000 years of history. The real question is why are Christians who prescribe to these ludicrous beliefs not better versed in it? |
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| 21 Jan 2017 12:16 AM |
| We keep on being told that religion, whatever its imperfections, at least instills morality. On every side, there is conclusive evidence that the contrary is the case and that faith causes people to be more mean, more selfish, and perhaps above all, more stupid. |
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| 21 Jan 2017 12:17 AM |
the bible is full of metaphors ok |
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