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Arcifire is not online. Arcifire
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19 Jan 2017 11:46 PM
has all the over emotions have gone to the left, while all the over rationilism has gone to the right.. and this is america is falling. We have no more morals, and the ones we do have, take no accountability for individual impact, and instead, only acknowledges systemic moral issues. And with rationalism, it seems to be all logic and reasoning based on evidence, not emotionalism or ignorance, has gone out the window.

We used to strive to be better people, everyone. We didnt impose high taxes on small business's, we wanted people to provide for the society, we wanted innovation. we didnt elect the same people for the last 30 years while at the same time complain about the very same politicans. We voted them out. When there was such issues such as trumps women grabbing video or hillarys email scandal, we didnt vote for them, we had integrity. What happened?
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19 Jan 2017 11:47 PM
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19 Jan 2017 11:48 PM
The right isn't anymore rational then the left, they're two sides of the same coin.

The rational side of things is inhabited by people such as Sam Harris.
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19 Jan 2017 11:56 PM
@buiz thank you.

"The right isn't anymore rational then the left, they're two sides of the same coin.

The rational side of things is inhabited by people such as Sam Harris. "

There is irrationality on both sides, but more so on the left. Regardless, total rationalism or total emotionalism both have flaws and can not work without eachother.

Our country used to be about striving to make a life, and not just a life, but a good life, to ask what we can do better as individuals for the rest of us. We took responsibility for our actions, and we didnt act like animals. We created ammendments and laws that gave our people a purpose, a label. Have we forgotten these very laws and ammendments are only pen ink on paper? who will enforce them when your government is the number one target for evil people who wish to use the strongest economy and military in the world? Who will hold our ammendments and laws in tact? Americans. How many people you know, know the first 10 ammendments? In the name of selfishness and nercissism, the lack of care for what has happened to our society, We care more about kim kardashian or justin beiber than the very fabric of our country being destroyed right behind our head. Our entire government has been hijacked by individuals who hold monopolies in our society. Would that not be called communism?
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19 Jan 2017 11:59 PM
We used to be intelligent, thinkers, entrepeneurs. Now were just a bunch of consumers worried about the next iphone or whats trending, jsut to fit in.. a selfish desire... instead of practicing self determination based on evidence, not cultural norms. the very reason we have the first ammendment in the first place. Our founding fathers actually made the first ammendment to protect the beliefs and speech that are not widely known or accepted, this is a fact and is known by many historians and political scientists.
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20 Jan 2017 12:00 AM
I agree that responsibility has been degraded, and that emotions are becoming more valued then truth, however I would say this is an issue with society as a whole, it's a result of a blatant disregard for truth and rationale.

I don't think it's becoming worse, I think it's always been there and now we're simply seeing it far more blatantly.
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20 Jan 2017 12:03 AM
Im so tired of living in a society where people either think government or the corporations are the solution. Both are, they are under the same roof. Small business's who create innovation and new ideas, the smaller guy, the average consumer, are what made this economy and society so strong... not government or large corporations. Its not People VS government or People VS big business. Its the people VS centralization of power. Power corrupts any individual, what made america so great was its ability to innocate through democracy and economic foundations, not bailing out the banks or feeding the pockets of politicians by creating destructive policies that benefit the few and and hurt the majority.
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20 Jan 2017 12:05 AM
"I agree that responsibility has been degraded, and that emotions are becoming more valued then truth, however I would say this is an issue with society as a whole, it's a result of a blatant disregard for truth and rationale.

I don't think it's becoming worse, I think it's always been there and now we're simply seeing it far more blatantly. "

The morals in our society have changed, I dont think you or I can seriously argue against that, but regardless, you are probably right that it always existed to an extent at least.
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20 Jan 2017 12:05 AM
Mhm.

Corporations must restrict the government, and the government must restrict the corporations, give either to much power and you give up your freedom.
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20 Jan 2017 12:09 AM
"Corporations must restrict the government, and the government must restrict the corporations, give either to much power and you give up your freedom. "

very true.
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Arcifire is not online. Arcifire
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20 Jan 2017 12:27 AM
These things im talking about are not even right vs left. It's about stating how we have neglected the very values that have logically created the greatest country in the world in many margins.
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