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Re: ive always thought strongly that raids > trainings

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Heche is not online. Heche
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28 Dec 2016 03:58 AM
raids allow you to get first hand experience in what you'd be doing as a soldier for your clan
everything you learn in trainings that you dont learn in raids is basically useless information (unless its things like 'teamwork' or 'discipline' which, while it might be faster to teach in trainings, it would be way smarter and easier to learn by doing in raids)
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jcc98 is not online. jcc98
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28 Dec 2016 03:59 AM
yes practice raids and raids are much better for teaching than training
but battle practice and scrimmages are better for getting good
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robb12 is not online. robb12
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28 Dec 2016 04:00 AM
fighting people better than you is the truuu way to improve
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Felgrim is not online. Felgrim
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28 Dec 2016 04:01 AM
IN THE OTHER THREAD I BASICALLY SAID WHAT YOU SAID OP


POWERCLANS ARE GOING TO BENEFIT MORE FROM RAIDS AND PRACTICE RAIDS
SUPERCLANS ARE GOING TO BENEFIT MORE FROM TRAININGS
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Heche is not online. Heche
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28 Dec 2016 04:01 AM
@robb

exactly

thats how i went from silver 2 all the way to LEM in csgo
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jcc98 is not online. jcc98
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28 Dec 2016 04:01 AM
truuu
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ShatteredQ is not online. ShatteredQ
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28 Dec 2016 04:02 AM
ya but people are so afraid to lose raids now adays u know, they won't risk it


SQ is cool
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Heche is not online. Heche
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28 Dec 2016 04:02 AM
@felgrim

superclans would do better with raids
they have all these people that they can use at their wills
yet they waste 15 out of 20 events doing useless trainings rather than raiding
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Heche is not online. Heche
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28 Dec 2016 04:03 AM
@shattered

yes because they dont get any actual experience because of that

germany had experienced soldiers before the outbreak of WW2 because they sent soldiers to fight in the spanish civil war, which the allies didnt want to do because they didnt want to fight in wars
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Felgrim is not online. Felgrim
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28 Dec 2016 04:04 AM
ARE YOU FORGETTING THAT 99% OF THE MEMBERS OF SUPERCLANS ARE ABSOLUTE POTATOES OR ARE GOING TO ## ###### NEW TO CLANS AS A WHOLE IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE R BUTTON DOES ON A GUN HOW CAN YOU EXPECT THEM TO RAID IF THEY AREN'T COMFORTABLE WITH HOLDING THE SPACEBAR THEN SURELY THEY WILL FAIL EVERY RAID
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robb12 is not online. robb12
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28 Dec 2016 04:04 AM
When I did training I only ever bothered teaching people who basically knew absolutely nothing

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Felgrim is not online. Felgrim
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28 Dec 2016 04:04 AM
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Felgrim is not online. Felgrim
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28 Dec 2016 04:05 AM
THE WORD BE AND THE WORD VERY DON'T MIX WELL TOGETHER APPARENTLY
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Heche is not online. Heche
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28 Dec 2016 04:05 AM
@felgrim
learn by doing
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Felgrim is not online. Felgrim
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28 Dec 2016 04:07 AM
IF I WAS LEADING A RAID WITH A SUPERCLAN
AND I HAD 20 PEOPLE
AND 15 WERE NEW TO CLANS, HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING WITH THAT CLAN AT ALL

I GUARANTEE 80% OF THEM WILL LEAVE 5 MINUTES INTO THE RAID AND THE REST WILL BE SPAWNCAMPED WHILST IT'S A GUARANTEED RAID LOSS FOR THE VETERAN 5


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Heche is not online. Heche
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28 Dec 2016 04:08 AM
in my 8 years of clan experience

raids generate more activity in users (especially decent ones) than trainings
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robb12 is not online. robb12
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28 Dec 2016 04:08 AM
implying noobs are not the most loyal hardcore soldiers
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Felgrim is not online. Felgrim
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28 Dec 2016 04:10 AM
YES HECHE AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING


IN A POWER CLAN RAIDS > TRAININGS
IN A SUPER CLAN RAIDS < TRAININGS

IF THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A RAID IN A SUPERCLAN IS TO SEPERATE THE POTATOES FROM THE STRONG THEN YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE 99% OF PEOPLE YOU BRING WITH YOU
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Heche is not online. Heche
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28 Dec 2016 04:11 AM
not at all felgrim
dear god have you ever lead a large clan
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Felgrim is not online. Felgrim
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28 Dec 2016 04:13 AM
I'VE LEAD SEVERAL TRAININGS AND RAIDS WITH JC WHEN I WAS A COLONEL AND FROM MY EXPERIENCE
YES 99% OF THEM WERE POTATOES EVERY TIME

THE ONLY TIME YOU WOULD EVER WIN A RAID IS IF YOU HAD -OVERWHELMING- NUMBERS

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Heche is not online. Heche
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28 Dec 2016 04:14 AM
but its not about winning raids

its about getting experience

people who quit because theyre doing bad in a raid, and they dont want to ever experience it again
will never
never
raid again
no matter how many trainings they go to
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Felgrim is not online. Felgrim
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28 Dec 2016 04:16 AM
GETTING A CABBAGE WHO HAS -NEVER TOUCHED A GUN ON ROBLOX- IS GOING TO BE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO LEAVE 5 MINUTES INTO THE RAID AND NEVER CLAN AGAIN


THAN SOMEBODY WHO HAS ATLEAST TOUCHED A GUN AND KNOWS WHAT THE BUTTONS DO AND KNOWS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T EXPECT TO WIN STRAIGHT AWAY AND KNOWS THAT CLANS AREN'T JUST 'RAID RAID RAID' IS
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Heche is not online. Heche
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28 Dec 2016 04:20 AM
again, after 8 years of experience in clans, i whole heartedly disagree with you
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robb12 is not online. robb12
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28 Dec 2016 04:22 AM
A tiny gun arena doesnt prepare you for the horrors of truuu roblox combat
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Felgrim is not online. Felgrim
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28 Dec 2016 04:22 AM
IF YOU'VE GOT NOTHING ELSE TO SAY I'M GOING TO RESPECT YOUR OPINION BUT I STILL BELIEVE EVERYTHING I SAID IS CORRECT
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