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Re: What happened to CSP? explained

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Mohxy is not online. Mohxy
Joined: 20 Dec 2010
Total Posts: 5958
24 Dec 2016 10:17 PM
Since November of 2015, the goal was always to make CSP a super clan. At that time, clans were already beginning to decline & having another power clan around was not going to help with that. Recruiting thousands of members would be easy but maintaining an active super clan was something that required entertaining tech which is why we never became one (under my leadership at least).

Until the development was done, I passed time declaring war on groups & attempting to war groups. Out of like 6 clans I declared war on, only two of them actually accepted (RAT/ISA), the other 4 declined (most recently, FoA).

Just a few weeks ago, one of my main developers (general at the time), HICOM, quit developing for CSP as he didn't have motivation. I was a little disappointed as we still had a terrible fort (Stratis) which couldn't be used as an entertaining fort to patrol. This meant we probably wouldn't become a superclan unless I put more money into the clan & i wasnt interested enough to do that.

When FoA declined our war, there was nothing left to do. Trainings got repetitive and so did raids (they get repetitive when you've hosted 150 raids in 10 months). So I talked to NBK about creating a clan with a single purpose and so we did. Banshee was never their idea so I didn't just abandon my other group. I never planned to give group ownership but I figured HICOM would probably be more motivated to develop for the group, so I did. If I'm welcomed back, I'll be back with them in the future.

My advice to anyone who is thinking about leading a group: don't unless you're a developer yourself.
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TendonKorlec is not online. TendonKorlec
Joined: 25 Jan 2014
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24 Dec 2016 10:19 PM
well explained sir
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HelliousMonarch is not online. HelliousMonarch
Joined: 19 Jun 2011
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24 Dec 2016 10:20 PM
Since November of 2015, the goal was always to make CSP a super clan. At that time, clans were already beginning to decline & having another power clan around was not going to help with that. Recruiting thousands of members would be easy but maintaining an active super clan was something that required entertaining tech which is why we never became one (under my leadership at least).

Until the development was done, I passed time declaring war on groups & attempting to war groups. Out of like 6 clans I declared war on, only two of them actually accepted (RAT/ISA), the other 4 declined (most recently, FoA).

Just a few weeks ago, one of my main developers (general at the time), HICOM, quit developing for CSP as he didn't have motivation. I was a little disappointed as we still had a terrible fort (Stratis) which couldn't be used as an entertaining fort to patrol. This meant we probably wouldn't become a superclan unless I put more money into the clan & i wasnt interested enough to do that.

When FoA declined our war, there was nothing left to do. Trainings got repetitive and so did raids (they get repetitive when you've hosted 150 raids in 10 months). So I talked to NBK about creating a clan with a single purpose and so we did. Banshee was never their idea so I didn't just abandon my other group. I never planned to give group ownership but I figured HICOM would probably be more motivated to develop for the group, so I did. If I'm welcomed back, I'll be back with them in the future.

My advice to anyone who is thinking about leading a group: don't unless you're a developer yourself.


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ForgedVoid is not online. ForgedVoid
Joined: 12 Aug 2010
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24 Dec 2016 10:21 PM
One of the main reasons OO at the time didn't become greater than it already was and quickly declined and failed was because budgers left (our main developer)

You got a point sir :PP
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Inevera is not online. Inevera
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24 Dec 2016 10:21 PM
Truth be told
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Avexic is not online. Avexic
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24 Dec 2016 10:21 PM
I respect that you spoke up, Mohxy.

Mature thing to do.

Fear the Protocol
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hoperloperfoper is not online. hoperloperfoper
Joined: 08 Aug 2012
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24 Dec 2016 10:22 PM
"My advice to anyone who is thinking about leading a group: don't unless you're a developer yourself."

that right there, is 100% true
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chrispykreme is not online. chrispykreme
Joined: 23 Oct 2012
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24 Dec 2016 10:34 PM
"My advice to anyone who is thinking about leading a group: don't unless you're a developer yourself."

I personally don't agree with this. A leader doesn't have to be a good raid leader, a good document writer, or a good developer. A leader needs to be able to motivate a group of people to contribute and complete certain tasks while enjoying it.




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Ihasacorm is not online. Ihasacorm
Joined: 13 Jan 2011
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24 Dec 2016 10:35 PM
And have money if they can't get friends to help them out, chrispy
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chrispykreme is not online. chrispykreme
Joined: 23 Oct 2012
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24 Dec 2016 10:39 PM
On the contrary, Ihas! I sold the group funds!


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theSelSlayer is not online. theSelSlayer
Joined: 10 Oct 2015
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24 Dec 2016 10:39 PM
Interesting analysis mohxy
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Ihasacorm is not online. Ihasacorm
Joined: 13 Jan 2011
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24 Dec 2016 10:40 PM
@Chris well take my for example. I currently have 66 robux but I could easily buy robux with money but I'm not gonna do that ever

If I were to start up a group I would either A) Rely on a friend or friends to help out with a base, uniforms, documents, etc etc.

Because I can't script or build..like at all.

Soo uh yea
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Xavez is not online. Xavez
Joined: 11 Jun 2012
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24 Dec 2016 10:43 PM
Hah, What A Traitor You Are Mohxy. Leaving Your Own Clan To Have Fun On A Game Because The Point Of A Game Is To Have Fun HaHaHaHa


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chrispykreme is not online. chrispykreme
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24 Dec 2016 10:43 PM
If people see potential in your and your clan, they will want to join and they will want to help out with a base, uniforms, documents, etc etc.

I didn't host much raids, I didn't make uniforms and tech, I didn't write documents.

You have to start small and simple, then work your way up.


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Auquies is not online. Auquies
Joined: 28 Sep 2016
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24 Dec 2016 10:45 PM
FoA didn't decline.

We just weren't doing your terms, or having you play dirty.

We agreed to raid you countlessly and focus on raiding you only, but CSP had other ideas.
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espressos is not online. espressos
Joined: 10 Jun 2011
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24 Dec 2016 10:45 PM
i didn't decline your war, I just didn't want too for a couple of weeks because of the toxicity coming from csp and my own members smh, because thats not fun.

They say dat they witchu but hesitate when it's time to slide.


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theSelSlayer is not online. theSelSlayer
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24 Dec 2016 10:45 PM
Chrispy my guy you were literally handed a pretty decently successfully clan you just had to keep it running that's totally different from starting something from the ground up
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espressos is not online. espressos
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24 Dec 2016 10:46 PM
FoA didn't decline.

We just weren't doing your terms, or having you play dirty.

We agreed to raid you countlessly and focus on raiding you only, but CSP had other ideas. x2

Literally exactly lol.



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Mikenize is not online. Mikenize
Joined: 05 Sep 2015
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24 Dec 2016 11:03 PM
Yeah Lewis yellow jumpsuit all I need was a real machete, K $upreme my blood brother and we be war ready.





killer9094 add 10k
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chrispykreme is not online. chrispykreme
Joined: 23 Oct 2012
Total Posts: 4075
25 Dec 2016 08:35 PM
SelSlayer you don't understand what happened. Alex stole Sleet Clan and everyone was exiled, Prag and most of the other HRs left. I was left with nothing. Just old tech that ended up being leaked.


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TimeBurnz is online. TimeBurnz
Joined: 21 Apr 2015
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25 Dec 2016 08:37 PM
this is why i have 5+ paid developers in my pocket before starting a clan


I wonder what grenades taste like | Devin
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SpecSlayer is not online. SpecSlayer
Joined: 03 Dec 2011
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25 Dec 2016 08:39 PM
Chrispy's HR's carried him smh he was a useless beta
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
Joined: 12 May 2011
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25 Dec 2016 08:39 PM
Don't bother wasting our time again; we won't be dealing with you in the future. Thanks.
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inf3rnalized is not online. inf3rnalized
Joined: 05 May 2015
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25 Dec 2016 08:39 PM
Lol
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55Altair is not online. 55Altair
Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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25 Dec 2016 08:39 PM
im linking people to this thread from now on when they ask why you shouldnt make a clan if you don't have any talents
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