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Re: !!! Helpful Equation for All Traders !!!

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pepestan is not online. pepestan
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19 Dec 2016 01:12 PM
I've created this thing called TAR (Traded for Average RAP) - it's super helpful to make sure you're profiting from a trade. Of course, if you're a value trader, you could replace the RAP with value... Read on:

TAR = An average of the RAP/value in which you traded an item for.

So, for example, if the total TAR of your items in one trade is bigger than the total TAR of your items in the trade(s) you got them from, then you're gaining profit from the trade compared to what you originally traded them for, and vice versa.

This is the equation to work out the TAR:

x = RAP/value of the items you gave
y = RAP/value of the items you received
a = Amount of items you recieved

c = {X (subtract) Y} (divided by) A
(lol srry for the words in the equation, blame hashtags)

Add c to all items you received, and you will find out the TAR of them.

Aim to trade off the items for more than their TAR, then you will be gaining profit.

Example:

ITEMS YOU WILL GIVE (1000)
Fish Stick

ITEMS YOU WILL RECEIVE (900)
Potato (500)
Banana (250)
Apple (150)

x = 1000
y = 900
a = 3

(1000 - 900) ÷ 3 = 33.3 recurring (rounded to 33)

TAR of Potato = Five hundred (plus) thirty three (which equals) 533
TAR of Banana = 250 (plus) thirty three (which equals) 288
TAR of Apple = 150 (plus) thirty three (which equals) 188
So that means you traded the Potato for 533 RAP, the Banana for 288 RAP and the Apple for 188 RAP.

If I hadn't have rounded the 33.3 recurring, the TAR of all 3 items added together would equal the RAP of what you gave.

Now, to profit, you must make your next trade's receiving RAP higher than your combined RAP.

It takes some thinking about, but once you've got your head around it, it's super helpful!

Now, before you scream at me, I apologize:

-If I got all this wrong.
-If this actually isn't helpful at all.
-If the title is too clickbaity for your liking.
-If this has already been created.


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pepestan is not online. pepestan
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19 Dec 2016 01:16 PM
By the way, what do y'all think of it? :P


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19 Dec 2016 01:19 PM
huh? ;o


https://www.roblox.com/Trade/TradeWindow.aspx?TradePartnerID=95704096
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19 Dec 2016 01:20 PM
r u is going be mathematician when grown up


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DeathmatchX18 is online. DeathmatchX18
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19 Dec 2016 01:21 PM
I gave Cf for 55k and gave 57k for al capwn in the past 2 days so i won TAR?
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pepestan is not online. pepestan
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19 Dec 2016 01:29 PM
@Death
If you would be so kind and show me what those abbreviations actually mean, then I will work it out for you XD
Sorry I'm fairly new to trading :P

@SkyBlue
Read it over, it basically tells you if you earned profit from receiving and then giving an item.

@General
lol It's not that complicated if you understand it, read it over ;)


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19 Dec 2016 01:34 PM
O_O


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pepestan is not online. pepestan
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19 Dec 2016 01:41 PM
:OOO


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pepestan is not online. pepestan
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19 Dec 2016 01:42 PM
@Death
Actually, could you please just post the Roblox+ LMaD button version of the trades you are asking me to look at in this thread?


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19 Dec 2016 01:43 PM
what the
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DeusMalum is not online. DeusMalum
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19 Dec 2016 01:43 PM
what if y is greater


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pepestan is not online. pepestan
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19 Dec 2016 01:46 PM
@Voyance
It basically just determines if you've profited from the trades you've made.

@Dues
Nothing changes, just continue the sum as normal. When you get to the part where you have to add a negative number, just get rid of the plus sign and subtract it instead, for example:

5 + -3 = 2

5 - 3 = 2


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pepestan is not online. pepestan
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19 Dec 2016 01:50 PM
b1


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19 Dec 2016 01:58 PM
b2


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Pyte is not online. Pyte
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19 Dec 2016 02:00 PM
this is unnecessary


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pepestan is not online. pepestan
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19 Dec 2016 02:02 PM
@pyte
oh, sorry for doing such a bad deed.
i now understand why i shouldnt have spent 30 minutes creating this, and how it makes me really annoying and an idiot.
please forgive me, mum


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DeusMalum is not online. DeusMalum
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19 Dec 2016 02:05 PM
so say x is 1000 and y is 1500

1000-1500= -500

now when I mutliply or divide or whatever the next step is, it doesnt work

also
this is pretty useless

say I want to trade potato for something else but this time I add Kiwi instead of the other 2, so whats the TAR of the trade you're sending?

also it's pretty uselses due to, if you want profit, just look at which value is bigger and always get more for an item you receive then what you gave.

This just over complicates everything for no reason quite honestly.

plus, most of the people on lmad dont know how to add yet so you're a bit too advanced for them


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19 Dec 2016 02:05 PM
plus, most of the people on lmad dont know how to add yet so you're a bit too advanced for them [2]


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pepestan is not online. pepestan
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19 Dec 2016 02:37 PM
-500 divided by 2 = -250, simple math :/

And you'd know what the TAR of the Kiwi is, because you'd have traded for it.
I don't know what the TAR of Kiwi is in your situation, because I haven't seen the trade you did for it.

The TAR isn't a set value for one item, it depends on what YOU traded the item for.

Also, about the bigger value thing, it makes sure that you don't pay a bigger upgrade fee then you get. For example:

This seems like a good trade at first site:

ITEMS YOU WILL GIVE (900)
Potato (500)
Banana (250)
Apple (150)

ITEMS YOU WILL RECEIVE (1500)
Pie

But what if the TAR of those three items combined is bigger than the RAP of the Pie? Then that means that you just lost profit.

For example, the TAR would be bigger than the RAP of the Pie if you'd got traded out, say 2k RAP for those items. You'd be loosing 500 RAP in profit, and all the item's TAR added together would be 500 below the RAP of the Pie, which tells you that you're loosing profit.

And it's not complicated if you know what to do, literally just follow the equation and then you're 100% certain, from that moment, that you're never loosing profit as long as the TAR of the items you're giving is less than that of the item you're receiving.

@General
lmao xD


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19 Dec 2016 02:39 PM
@Deus

For dividing negative numbers, follow these rules:

if there's an odd number of negatives in an equation, then when you divide it, the answer will be negative.

if there's an even number of negatives in an equation, then when you divide it, the answer will be positive.

eg.

-4 divided by -2 = 2

-4 divided by 2 = -2


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pepestan is not online. pepestan
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19 Dec 2016 02:41 PM
(last bump before I'm turning off the computer, let's keep this thread active? i rly dont want all that working out to go to waste xDD)


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pepestan is not online. pepestan
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19 Dec 2016 04:31 PM
Nvm then lol
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DeusMalum is not online. DeusMalum
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20 Dec 2016 11:25 AM
again

all this says

is get more value then you gave

to simplify all of this, just make sure everytime you trade, you get more value


this whole thread is useless and overly complicated
if you're giving 500 value and getting 1000, forget about tar or whatever you're trying to make up, just accept because your side < Receiving side


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pepestan is not online. pepestan
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22 Dec 2016 09:31 AM
But what if you're loosing value from when you last traded the items?


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DeusMalum is not online. DeusMalum
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22 Dec 2016 10:21 AM
if you make profit every trade then that's not a problem


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