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| 03 Dec 2016 02:17 PM |
shark tank has 6 sharks
none of those sharks are scammers they just want good deals u can feel free to not make a deal with the sharks and the sharks are free to not make a deal with you
GET. OVER. IT.
ITS BUSINESS
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spamerino
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:17 PM |
business is business
cashed out my goodies for a new pc... ya boiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:19 PM |
| the sharks do not commit fraud |
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:22 PM |
| Shark Tank is a good show tbh |
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:23 PM |
How can sharking me scamming?
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:26 PM |
Yep, also why are you not getting cobalt wings to wear with that beautiful Frigidus? :p
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materking
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:29 PM |
sharking is scamming
oh you can buy thsi computer, it can play any game on 60 fps 4k!! -to the someone that knows nothing about computers, they'll buy it
then they find it it doesn't even run microsoft excel!
that's a real-world example of scamming
now let's just plug in some roblox terms
oh you can buy thsi classic fedora, its worth 60k -to someone that knows nothing about trading, they'll buy it
then they find it that its hardly 45k!
or
you can use another example
you borrow someones classic fedora, and you take it, you just stole 45k, you are considered a scammer
but, if you give green flash shades (lets say 15k) for classic fedora by telling the classic fedora owner a bunch of lies about green flash shades, you just took 30k, yet you're considered a shark
only difference is, that you stole a little less?
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materking
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:32 PM |
also the shark tank example is kinda stupid if you think of it
ya they give you offers, and you take them -but you know EXACTLY what you are giving, and what you are getting
in sharking (on roblox anyways) you are likely influenced by a bunch of lies, and you THINK you know what you are getting, then you get it and find it that it isn't what you were told. so you actually DON'T know what you are getting, (or for that fact, what you are giving in most cases)
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:33 PM |
@mater
that's not a fair comparison due to inherent differences between roblox and real life
your example of a real life scam has to do with function. when u pay money for a computer that is advertised to have certain functions, then yes it is a scam.
telling someone that a computer is worth $1000 when it is really just worth $200 is the basis of economics. that's how profit is made. this is the definition of sharking - "lying" about price. |
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dag98
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:34 PM |
like i said
sharking is like a store who puts higher prices on something, like a candybar scamming is when a dumb kid goes an steals that candybar |
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:34 PM |
ya to be fair, they dont trick you on shark tank
this logic basically just applies to profiting off trades without trying to shark
i'd be like if on shark tank you have an idea and they wanna offer a prize for it, for example some sports car, and they trick you into thinking the sports car is worth 2 mil when its only worth like 1.3 or something |
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:35 PM |
| but thats what the sharks on shark tank often do. they devalue ur company to make u take a lower offer. |
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:36 PM |
"telling someone that a computer is worth $1000 when it is really just worth $200 is the basis of economics"
But that's not true at all? There's a lot more factors going into the price of a product, not just the worth of its components.
With roblox there's literally only the worth of the item itself, no other factors. If you lie about that and intentionally mislead people for your own profit, then that is the textbook definition of scamming.
no, i won't give 30k for valk. stop. STOP. |
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:37 PM |
waht r u talking about no other factors
demand, looks, market viability, price, rap, etc. are all factors to consider |
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:38 PM |
lol u hate me still?
hi im galrov the troll on lmad |
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materking
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:39 PM |
sharking on roblox is a lot more than lying about price, -in the real world, there is normally valid claims to back up the price of products such as the production cost, the development cost, the cost to just sell the product (transportation etc). -sharking has literally no cost to it, there is no claims backing up anything
in most cases now and days you lie about the price of your item, about the value of their item, and you're likely to get other people involved to make your claims seem more legitimate etc.
its like when you project an item
you rose the rap, to try to make your claim of a false value look more legitimate, but all your doing is flat out lying to people you trade them to.
sharking and scamming are both stealing -it's just the method used to get the profit is different
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:42 PM |
@omega isnt demand and rarety the only factors? XD thats what iv been told since the begging of time in economics
volatility is just how much the prices fluxate not what its worth at a specific point in time |
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:43 PM |
mater
if uve ever gone to an israeli shuk or some other small market somewhere, the people there will always try to sell u stuff for absurdly high prices that have no valid claims. ur just dumb if u fall for it
in fact, there is no valid claim for making an iphone $700 when production and every cost is only like $100. thats an insane markup |
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:44 PM |
@dag
i mean history of items worth certainly must be accounted for (projections, etc.)
also some people trade purely to look good so thats also a factor |
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:45 PM |
"that's not a fair comparison due to inherent differences between roblox and real life"
"if uve ever gone to an israeli shuk or some other small market somewhere, the people there will always try to sell u stuff for absurdly high prices that have no valid claims. ur just dumb if u fall for it"
That's part of the culture there.
You're supposed to haggle the price down from say 250 bucks for a pair of sunglasses to 20 bucks.
no, i won't give 30k for valk. stop. STOP. |
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| 03 Dec 2016 02:50 PM |
ye sure, but you can always pick that down to demand for example people who get valk cause it looks good for them increases the demand, that why objectivly ugly items have bad demand and objectivly good looking items have better demand.
and the history of an item can be both demand and supply
if an item like NVG who was 100k+ before suddenly dropped to 20k some owners wont trade because they dont want to trade for loose, or they hope it will rise back of. and some hit the bandwagon and sell before it lowers more. Aswell as people now wanting it as it lowers, or people who tries to get it as they think it will go up again.
and people dont want projecteds so they wont trade for it, so the demand decreases |
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