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llaserx is online. llaserx
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11 Nov 2016 11:19 AM
AGOLDY

ARE U REALLY SLOW

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agodlypancake is online. agodlypancake
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11 Nov 2016 11:19 AM
@kings: Yes, but do those "developers" use their own scripts?
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MiddleEastern is not online. MiddleEastern
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11 Nov 2016 11:22 AM
also i guarantee you those "ride a minion up 1 million steps into a telamon obby tycoon dantdm version" games had to use advertising to get any visitors
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metaknight200 is not online. metaknight200
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11 Nov 2016 11:26 AM
i really don't get what your obsession with trying to downplay learning things is

first you want to find every excuse for not getting better at drawing, and now you're trying to say making a game is pointless too (when games like phantom forces are apparently paying for tuition)




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agodlypancake is online. agodlypancake
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11 Nov 2016 11:27 AM
@meta: ... What are you talking about? I'm not trying to "downplay" it.

I'm just stating that you won't get anything out of it. The skill is mostly useless, because no one will care about what you did with the skill. :/

"Be famous to get famous." <-- Notice how no one is arguing that?
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VityaBC is not online. VityaBC
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11 Nov 2016 11:29 AM
I MISSED THE FIRST POST AGAIN


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jumpykilldestroy is online. jumpykilldestroy
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11 Nov 2016 11:29 AM
its not a huge waste of time unless your only goal when doing it is to get a game on here popular and profit from it

its fun to script things even if they dont get popular (in my opinion atleast)

it also makes it easier to learn harder programming languages afterwards
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MiddleEastern is not online. MiddleEastern
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11 Nov 2016 11:31 AM
"i really don't get what your obsession with trying to downplay learning things is

first you want to find every excuse for not getting better at drawing, and now you're trying to say making a game is pointless too (when games like phantom forces are apparently paying for tuition)"

he has a point about the games though
not sure if he did about the drawing but i'm just trying to relate to him here so he doesn't feel alone in this
sure making a game may not be completely fruitless but it may not be worth the effort if op has to put a lot of money into them while not getting anything back

basically when i develop anything, i don't do it for money, i never have, i do it to make others happy and for some sort of fulfillment

if i were to ever create a game, money would not be the main focus, i'd be "rewarded" if i got this fulfillment in both myself and others

so making games might still be helpful even if they're not making you money
and perhaps op gets fulfillment from other things rather than making games
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kings53 is not online. kings53
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11 Nov 2016 11:33 AM
@sinii

that's a good way to put it, better than op's way

also it's just pure fun
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agodlypancake is online. agodlypancake
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11 Nov 2016 11:35 AM
Most people just do it for the money.

Also, @Sinii: I thought you left forever! QQ

Welcome back! :D
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MiddleEastern is not online. MiddleEastern
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11 Nov 2016 11:35 AM
if op doesn't get anything out of making games then i don't see the problem with this thread
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MiddleEastern is not online. MiddleEastern
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11 Nov 2016 11:36 AM
hi agodly
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kings53 is not online. kings53
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11 Nov 2016 11:37 AM
my codev and i are "trying" to do it for the money but we're really paying attention to detail

making a game is a lot of fun regardless if you make any money or not, especially if you have an equal commitment partner making it with you
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Cizox is not online. Cizox
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11 Nov 2016 11:42 AM
"Also, developing a game costs more than what you make back on it."

only if you're a moron when it comes to basic economics buddy


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MiddleEastern is not online. MiddleEastern
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11 Nov 2016 11:48 AM
"only if you're a moron when it comes to basic economics buddy"

omg
please stop
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managlyph is not online. managlyph
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11 Nov 2016 11:48 AM
I could make a professionally looking game, if only I knew how to script more. I can build decently, if given the time. I know how to make appealing images. I have minor compositing knowledge, but that should be enough.
I could advertise on Twitter or something, tell my friends to test my game out or something. I just need scripting to put everything together. Also time. But time is always necessary.


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MiddleEastern is not online. MiddleEastern
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11 Nov 2016 11:50 AM
managlyph
if you haven't actually tried to do this then i don't think you're in a good position to tell op that it's easy
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Cizox is not online. Cizox
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11 Nov 2016 11:52 AM
stop what lol. you have your marginal costs, your average total costs, and your average variable costs

earn revenue at the price youre selling gamepasses buying ad space etc that is higher than the atc then dont change anything you're doing

earn revenue at the price youre selling gamepasses buying ad space etc that is below the avc then either lower your prices to get back to $0 economic profit or stop on ads



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managlyph is not online. managlyph
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11 Nov 2016 11:53 AM
i never said it was easy?


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MiddleEastern is not online. MiddleEastern
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11 Nov 2016 11:54 AM
stop being unhelpful and unnecessary
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Cizox is not online. Cizox
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11 Nov 2016 11:55 AM
besides most of the big guys like tissuefoods already have their known methods for getting to the front page and earn economic profit

10k on sponsors 20k on ads


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managlyph is not online. managlyph
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11 Nov 2016 11:56 AM
i was just talking about how i could in theory make a professional LOOKING game (not a popular game) with what i have at the moment + scripting and time
if i had the time i would work on my sburb project for hours at a time but i simply don't have time


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MiddleEastern is not online. MiddleEastern
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11 Nov 2016 11:58 AM
"i never said it was easy?"

you seemed to be implying that it was and that you could do it easily even though you've never actually tried
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Cizox is not online. Cizox
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11 Nov 2016 11:59 AM
then dont assume


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managlyph is not online. managlyph
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11 Nov 2016 12:01 PM
i didn't try to imply it was easy, just that it was possible and that scripting is indeed helpful


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