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Re: i understand minor dislike or distrust for "illegals" but

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ursuIaa is not online. ursuIaa
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09 Nov 2016 04:44 PM
they do a lot of good to our economy

also what did they do to hurt you im confused??
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Veruce is not online. Veruce
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09 Nov 2016 04:45 PM
They aren't white.
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Dedotated_Wam is not online. Dedotated_Wam
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09 Nov 2016 04:45 PM
alot of good to demos*


Ready weapons, prep for contact.
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Insanero is not online. Insanero
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09 Nov 2016 04:46 PM
Illegals sneak in so they can go unnoticed whilst committing crimes

they make gangs and cause disorder whilst actually LEACHING

if they don't want to be arrested they should immigrate like everybody else


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vivivio is online. vivivio
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09 Nov 2016 04:46 PM
"They aren't white"
racist
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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09 Nov 2016 04:46 PM
They shouldn't be here, a law has been broken

I don't understand why nobody understands this
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Mannequeen is online. Mannequeen
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09 Nov 2016 04:47 PM
And?
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ursuIaa is not online. ursuIaa
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09 Nov 2016 04:49 PM
like i get that some do come here and cause trouble
but others do good things for us like take up jobs that no one else wants
which works wonders on the economy

also what if they didnt have the proper time or resources with which to be properly naturalized and had the book it out of their country i m m e d i a t l y

and now with trump thats kind of impossible top get naturalized at all for those cases
because if one were to announce their illegal presence they wouldnt be allowed to be naturalized they would be sent right back to wherever they ran from
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Doom_Chainsaw is not online. Doom_Chainsaw
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09 Nov 2016 04:50 PM
It exists because criminals or terrorists might sneak in unchecked, and then hurt our country.
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Insanero is not online. Insanero
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09 Nov 2016 04:51 PM
but others do good things for us like take up jobs that no one else wants"

Have you ever MET an unemployed person!?
yeesh there is NO such thing as a job nobody wants, people give them jobs so they can pay them less than a real american

also what if they didnt have the proper time or resources with which to be properly naturalized and had the book it out of their country i m m e d i a t l y

it takes almost nothing to properly get in, if they don't want to be punished they have to wait

and now with trump thats kind of impossible top get naturalized at all for those cases
Not really, he is ironing out issues in the border

because if one were to announce their illegal presence they wouldnt be allowed to be naturalized they would be sent right back to wherever they ran from
fair enough, but they really shouldn't break the law


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ravioli_formioli is online. ravioli_formioli
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09 Nov 2016 04:52 PM
They committed a crime.


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ursuIaa is not online. ursuIaa
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09 Nov 2016 04:52 PM
thats what the border is for
but again someone cant just walk up and go "i would like to be naturalized"
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Insanero is not online. Insanero
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09 Nov 2016 04:53 PM
but again someone cant just walk up and go "i would like to be naturalized"

never said that

they need proper visas and sponsors, which trump is willing to continue doing

if you are sneaking in it only shows you have something to hide since the offical channels are easy to go through

besides, sneaking requires more effort than actually being honest


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blobbem is not online. blobbem
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09 Nov 2016 04:54 PM
I don't dislike someone who committed a victim-less crime. Crossing a border illegally won't make me hate someone. Sure, I would have preferred it if they came into the country through legal means, but it's a bit harsh to dislike someone because they didn't.
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telnets is not online. telnets
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09 Nov 2016 05:00 PM
It's unfair to those who went through the rigorous process of coming here. My parents were able to come here from Cambodia because they were refugees of state-sponsored mass killings.


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blobbem is not online. blobbem
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09 Nov 2016 05:03 PM
'It's unfair to those who went through the rigorous process of coming here.'

Might be unfair, but to hate someone because they did something unfair? Disappointed, maybe.
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ursuIaa is not online. ursuIaa
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09 Nov 2016 05:03 PM
>Have you ever MET an unemployed person!?

im very sorry but its not my fault said unemployed person had the career goal of being a bus driver or a janitor

>yeesh there is NO such thing as a job nobody wants, people give them jobs so they can pay them less than a real american

im sorry but how on earth does one get away with breaking minimum wage laws
if you say "they have proof of illegal immigrants" thats a trash fact because in that case they would be deported. if the employer didnt tell and wanted to keep it secret for cheaper work, it would show up on taxes and the lower pay would be investigated and again the person would eventually get kicked out.


>it takes almost nothing to properly get in, if they don't want to be punished they have to wait

"wait"; the key phrase in my sentence was "didn't have time or resources". are you familiar with the concept of a refugee?
"it takes almost nothing to properly get in"; lets see--it requires proper documentation, an immigration application, photographs of oneself, and a fee of $390USD. it also requires the passing of an english and US civics test, which, again, they probably don't have the resources with which to study.

>Not really, he is ironing out issues in the border

ill tell you again they'll start turning people away without the proper docs

because if one were to announce their illegal presence they wouldnt be allowed to be naturalized they would be sent right back to wherever they ran from

>fair enough, but they really shouldn't break the law
again, refugees, study time, time to collect money, and for a lot of them this has to be done /within the us/
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IronGuest is not online. IronGuest
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09 Nov 2016 05:04 PM
illegals don't do anything for our economy

please don't lie to yourself
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AvacadoForcedMeme is not online. AvacadoForcedMeme
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09 Nov 2016 05:05 PM
>Have you ever MET an unemployed person!?
yeesh there is NO such thing as a job nobody wants, people give them jobs so they can pay them less than a real american

The U.S. has a perfectly healthy unemployment rate
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MaleficusFreud is not online. MaleficusFreud
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09 Nov 2016 05:05 PM
they clearly aren't superior, and since they're mexican commit more crimes
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MaleficusFreud is not online. MaleficusFreud
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09 Nov 2016 05:06 PM
*sarcasm*
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ursuIaa is not online. ursuIaa
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09 Nov 2016 05:06 PM
@iron

they fill jobs that no one else wants
and stimulate economic growth and development
coughghgh
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Insanero is not online. Insanero
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09 Nov 2016 05:08 PM
"im very sorry but its not my fault said unemployed person had the career goal of being a bus driver or a janitor"
stereotype

"im sorry but how on earth does one get away with breaking minimum wage laws
if you say "they have proof of illegal immigrants" thats a trash fact because in that case they would be deported. if the employer didnt tell and wanted to keep it secret for cheaper work, it would show up on taxes and the lower pay would be investigated and again the person would eventually get kicked out." they still utilize them for cheap labor and don't prioritize actual residents

but alas, even if an illegal didn't want to cause problems, a lot of them simply come to the states and commit crimes. A huge amount simply want to visit the greener grass and cause problems or even smuggle in contraband. it isn't our fault their nation is in pieces and they are incapable of being employed in their area, we have to care for our own nation before we can help others. A ton of people close to the border have to deal with crime and issues caused by illegals


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IronGuest is not online. IronGuest
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09 Nov 2016 05:09 PM
"they fill jobs that no one else wants
and stimulate economic growth and development
coughghgh"

They don't fill many jobs because they have no rights to work

They are only taken advantage of by business men
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LatitudeLiass is not online. LatitudeLiass
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09 Nov 2016 05:10 PM
"they do a lot of good to our economy"

living of welfare like a tumour to the state is not good for our economy

"also what did they do to hurt you im confused"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Yszp3SmxE


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