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Soybeen is not online. Soybeen
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01 Nov 2016 11:07 PM
How when we are using measurements between one and negative one excluding 0 we still use the plural form?

0.25 inches
0 inches
1 inch
25 inches

-0.5 decibels
0.5 decibels
1 decibel
10 decibels


Unless we use the word form of fractions, in which case we say,

a quarter foot / one-fourth foot
a half foot / one-half foot
one foot
two feet

But the plural again if we use the numerical form?

1/4 feet
1/2 feet
1 foot




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Soybeen is not online. Soybeen
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01 Nov 2016 11:14 PM
*fractional form

Also, out of curiosity, who says 1/4 foot instead of 1/4 feet?
I've never been told the correct way to notate that.


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cntkillme is not online. cntkillme
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01 Nov 2016 11:14 PM
idk but would we say

'1.0 feet' because '1.0 foot' doesn't sound right
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Soybeen is not online. Soybeen
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01 Nov 2016 11:16 PM
I mean, if you say "one-point-zero-feet", because really you're saying "one-foot-plus-zero-more-feet"
I think it would make more sense to say 0.25 foot because that's like saying "zero-and-0.25-of-one-foot"


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cntkillme is not online. cntkillme
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01 Nov 2016 11:18 PM
I'd still say 0.25 feet because it just sounds better.
If you were to say "a quarter of a foot" that works too
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Soybeen is not online. Soybeen
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01 Nov 2016 11:19 PM
Right it sounds better, but why are we using the plural if we're talking about less than one foot ;) ?
This is thesis material.


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cntkillme is not online. cntkillme
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01 Nov 2016 11:20 PM
Because the English language is awful.
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Lem0nzzx is not online. Lem0nzzx
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01 Nov 2016 11:20 PM
Pretty sure it's still plural either way.. Maybe not, but that's just a logical assumption.


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Soybeen is not online. Soybeen
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01 Nov 2016 11:21 PM
^ "a quarter feet"
;)


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Lem0nzzx is not online. Lem0nzzx
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01 Nov 2016 11:22 PM
Lol


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cntkillme is not online. cntkillme
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01 Nov 2016 11:23 PM
I mean technically "0.25" is not singular since singular implies "1"
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Soybeen is not online. Soybeen
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01 Nov 2016 11:24 PM
But .25 of one apple is still a single piece of an apple


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cntkillme is not online. cntkillme
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01 Nov 2016 11:25 PM
No it's less than a single piece
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Soybeen is not online. Soybeen
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01 Nov 2016 11:30 PM
Physically how, if a piece by definition is a portion of a whole?




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cntkillme is not online. cntkillme
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01 Nov 2016 11:31 PM
because it's not a WHOLE (1) piece ;]
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Soybeen is not online. Soybeen
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01 Nov 2016 11:37 PM
But plural = more than 1
why do we use the plural form when talking about less than one :(


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01 Nov 2016 11:38 PM
It's not just english tho

I can tell you guys Spanish and French have the same condition
I have a spider on my back.
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cntkillme is not online. cntkillme
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01 Nov 2016 11:39 PM
i know but the english language is bad
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cntkillme is not online. cntkillme
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01 Nov 2016 11:40 PM
all those languages are bad.
all languages are bad.
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Soybeen is not online. Soybeen
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01 Nov 2016 11:43 PM
I dunno about contemporarily bad, maybe in the future when we all communicate via mind-chips in binary then we can say that english was relatively bad compared to the future standard


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cntkillme is not online. cntkillme
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01 Nov 2016 11:45 PM
I know what you're saying but I think we just consider "1" to be the only singular number
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Kodran is not online. Kodran
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01 Nov 2016 11:45 PM
it's a singular quarter of a foot whereas 0.25 feet is not a singular anything


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Soybeen is not online. Soybeen
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01 Nov 2016 11:48 PM
Isn't it equally logical, though, to think that .25 is a single portion of 1 as opposed to 2.0 which is two portions of 1


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Soybeen is not online. Soybeen
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01 Nov 2016 11:50 PM
At this point I no longer find this topic interesting
^_^


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Kodran is not online. Kodran
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01 Nov 2016 11:51 PM
I'm with cnt on this one that we consider only 1 singular and everything else plural.


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