oCalvin_R
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| 18 Oct 2016 07:56 PM |
■▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬■ SECTION I. DEFINITION If passed, if a congressman abstains on something that requires 2/3's to pass or 1/3's to fail the abstention will take away from the 2/3 and or 1/3. Meaning if there are 23 Representatives and 2/3 is required to pass something and 5 Representatives abstains the needed votes to pass will be 2/3 of 18 and not 23 and or 1/3 of 18 to fail it and not 23.
SECTION II. REASONING This has been a 'hot topic' in Congress recently and has caused elections to be affected along with our passed/failed legislation regarding a vote of 2/3's to pass and 1/3's to fail. A group of people is saying an abstention doesn't remove from the 2/3 and a group is saying it does and it's just causing drama.
An abstention should take away from the 2/3's and 1/3's reason being 2/3's or 1/3's are of the congressman/woman expected to vote, an abstention is like not voting so if a congressman/woman aren't gonna vote they shouldn't be counted towards the 2/3's. If it isn't removed from the 2/3's or 1/3's then voting may not ever end. If there are 5 abstains, 8 aye's, 5 nay's, then voting is deadlocked because abstentions aren't being removed meaning without this our process and progress can be slowed down. ■▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬■ Signed, Calvin Romero.
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Saber516
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| 18 Oct 2016 08:00 PM |
aye :O (came up with this idea first)
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oCalvin_R
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| 18 Oct 2016 08:44 PM |
Nay, this is blatantly against the Constitution.
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oCalvin_R
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| 18 Oct 2016 08:45 PM |
What Constitution? Not the one of the United States.
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| 18 Oct 2016 09:59 PM |
Abstain
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Coylte
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tobayas
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| 30 Oct 2016 09:04 AM |
| I hereby open the forum vote for JCR 3. |
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Apteria
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| 30 Oct 2016 09:16 AM |
nay
this would cause too much controversy
signed, dean apteria anyways |
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| 30 Oct 2016 09:23 AM |
Nay definitely.
Too much confusing! |
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| 30 Oct 2016 10:04 AM |
much nay, very wow
nay
S. Min. Leader, Luke Hefner |
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Convext
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